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In Reply to: O.K., I just got to know: what makes Citizen Kane great? posted by Guy on December 14, 2005 at 23:29:21:
....just turn off the volume and just LOOK at this film. Practically every film you've ever seen since this one was made stole the techniques originated in this film. Decades ahead of its time as far as cinematography goes. C'mon......shooting up from BELOW the floor? That's an angle only a theatrical director could have conjured up.
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.........was insignificant. I just wanted to emphasize the films ground-breaking photography. That alone makes this a significant film.
secondary to technique.
***Practically every film you've ever seen since this one was made stole the techniques originated in this film.Oh, yeah? That's a VERY tall statement, man. Or you simply have not seen anything made before that time?
> Or you simply have not seen anything made before that time?Are you talking about the beautifully shot epics and European films of the 20's and 30's, with the laughably bad vaudevillian acting and clunky directing?
I consider Citizen Kane to be the maturation point of filmmaking, until then nobody got the complete package of a film quite right. Either it had fine acting and amaturish cinematography, or throwback, theater-style overacting with lovely visuals. Welles got it all correct.
Sounds like you need to get an account with Netflix.
I'm a big fan of Metropolis, I own both the cheesy 80's release and the new cut with the extra footage they've found, as well as the excellent Alloy Orchestra soundtrack and interesting anime remake. It's a groundbreaking film, but in many respects it's relatively primitive compared to Kane. M is superior in many ways to Metropolis, but lacks the intricate plot and character dynamics of Kane.I don't think that all the films before Kane were crap, they were just, for the most part, unsophisticated in one way or another.
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Kane's multi-faceted approach in story telling e.g., voice-overs, flash-backs, expanded the powers of cinema. Your examples are fine films however they don't approach the cinematic gestalt of Kane.
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