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In Reply to: Nothing To Get posted by AudioHead on October 24, 2000 at 07:27:36:
Why are you so categorical in your posts? Did you speak to Kubrick, asked him what he wanted to do in this film, why it didn't work(in your opinion), what you, in his place, would've done differently,etc?
"There's really nothing to get in this film;" You should've left it at that, perhaps. Kubrick isn't a dogma, but one of the best directors that ever stepped into a studio, a thinker.I don't imagine he would make a film that'd be categorized with a dismissing "There's really nothing to get in this film;" This reminds me of people over at the music asylum saying that Mahler's 7th Symphony is garbage or something along these lines. That's rediculous.
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***This reminds me of people over at the music asylum saying that Mahler's 7th Symphony is garbage or something along these lines. That's rediculous.That indeed is ridiculous and one should always be super-careful dropping his negative opinions on the established masterworks.
Here we have a different case. It would be naive to call Kubrick anything other than genius - and I don't think anyone has done that. But every particular work is up for grabs, since it has not yet stood the test of time.
Mahler's 7th has. The pre-Raphaelites have, as much as I hate them. I hate them, but I shall not call them garbage.
BTW, what is your opinion on Rothko?
Excellent point, Victor. I was going to elaborate on this myself(What makes film a classic), but had to literally run to work. Anyway, time will tell. For sure, Eyes Wide Shut will be watched in 30 yrs, whereas Lola won't be(again, an assumption I can't back, but we'll see. I have time).
About Rothko - read this "It is a widely accepted notion among painters that it does not matter what one paints as long as it is well painted. This is the essence of academicism. There is no such thing as good painting about nothing."
What do you think about this quote? It belongs to Rothko, a man who painted lines, squares, floating rectangles, etc. A formalistic view from informal artist.
Oh, my opinion of him - I think he's great! What do you think? I also think that his works have to be viewed in situ, as opposed to book illustration, which, no matter how good in qaulity it is, always takes away from the original. This can be stated about most visual art, yet Rothkos are cool when viewed from different angles. I suggest you buy one(Rothko, not an angle)If that's out of the question, ask Daryl R to snap a photo and paint one in his garage. Should come out great! You and your guests will have a hard time telling which is which.
***If that's out of the question, ask Daryl R to snap a photo and paint one in his garage.All one would need is a paint roller and few left-over cans of paint, $1.99 at your Home Depot:-)
***Should come out great! You and your guests will have a hard time telling which is which.
Oh, Dmitry, I have few guests who are a bit more sophisticated than that.
But speaking about trully creative artworks, I forgot the name (can find it in my auction catalogs, if you are interested), but his blank canvas had three gashes done with some "sharp pointed implement". Last time it sold for I believe $59,000.
I can imagine the artist carrying that work in him for months, being tortured in his dreams, then one day pulling out that darn kitchen knife and finaly resolving all the creative conflicts... and cash flow too.
To compare Mahler's 7th with "Eyes Wide Shut" is ludicrous. As for
Kubrick, yes is a fine director, but even fine directors efforts, even
final ones, sometimes fall short. Please don't put him on an
unassailable pedestal. - AH
Why is it ludicrous? Do you feel more adept in discussing works of Kubrick than discussing works of Mahler? That's cool."Please don't put him on an unassailable pedestal."
Did I? Don't think so. Just enjoyed the film.Please read my replies to VK, I don't want to repeat myself.
Perhaps I should have clarified the statement 'nothing to get';
rather it should have been 'nothing else to get'; implying i and perhaps
certain others had already 'got' the story and admired the aesthetics
at times, but went away mostly with an emotional void. - AH
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