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important film.
Quick... name how many African theme films (with the exception of Out of Africa) you've heard of or seen?
Lumumba isn't great film, if we judge by directorial skill. It is quite matter of fact but without the edge of the better documentaries. Rather, it is the calm, very understated style of the film and the quiet, burning-inside performance of the lead which make the film memorable.
If you believe that Africans are primitive, pre-human creatures not fit to govern themselves, as the Belgians did, this film probably will upset you.
If you believe the US hasn't intervened in others' countries leadership, similarly this film will trouble you.
For those others who are curious about a man whose name holds the same power as Che's does in all of Central and South America... I urge you to see this film.
Follow Ups:
From around the late 50s with Sidney Poitier and Rock Hudson base don Richard Ruark's novel of the same name which I also read.The story is around the Mau Mau uprising and the friendship between the characters of Poitier and Hudson.
While it might be nice to dally in ability of central and south Africans to govern themselves, the reality lies in the results which show the Africans to be failures (too many to list). Likely based on their abiding tribal mentality. IMO, central/sount Africa remains a hopeless pit if left to themselves.
Native Americans are similarly "savage?"
Fact is (do yourself a favor and study a bit of anthropology and then some African history), Africans did just fine until the Western nations started pillaging. Sure, there were problems going back to the Middle Ages due to N. Africans exploiting for slaves but not the massive interventions and destructions due to the West.
Oh, sorry, I've pointed the finger at Europeans and Americans, haven't I?
I take that you're a product of PC'd education. At 50, I wasn't exposed to that dumbing-down educational experiment. Central/south Africans were not too far from cavemen. Technology was non-existent, tribal warfare and slavery was common- and still is! Most never developed a written language. Never mind their honored rituals of female circumcision.Native Americans were not too much farther along. Tribal warfare, slavery, etc. etc.
and Bantu would be good starting points. Cavemen? Not.
And, even better and closer, you may wish to study up on Native American culture.
Tribal warfare? Slavery?
I guess you don't know how many of our citizens are in jail at the moment: 2 million.
We're also engaged in... how many wars has the US been in during the past 50 years?
I won't bother to go into all the other wonderful benefits "civilization" has brought to us, compared to the "cavemen."
the nice thing is that you can leave anytime you want
veiled invitation, go fuck yourself. I'm twice the American you'll ever be.
> Quick... name how many African theme films (with the exception of Out of Africa) you've heard of or seen?I love these games! Here goes:
African Queen
Blackhawk Down
Casablanca
Heart Of Darkness
Hotel Rwanda
Roots
Sahara
When We Were Kings (More or less)
ZuluThen there's all the biblical epics set in Egypt, and the WWII films.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
mean, from your list, just one (Sahara hardly qualifies 'cause it's just a location w/out any African theme, right?).
It seems the second largest continent doesn't hold much interest for us outside of the safari-theme. The people themselves, their struggles, colonial history and post-colonial history...
I wonder if it's because it wouldn't be a very pretty picture and upset many Western countries' self-opinions as that of "civilizers?"
> (Sahara hardly qualifies 'cause it's just a location w/out any African theme, right?).Actually one of the main plot lines is a disease that's killing off several villages, with a whole Mugabi dictator-figure, corporate corruption, and tribal warfare subplot. It could have been a decent movie if it was a bit more Spielberg/Raiders of the Lost Ark, and a bit less Michael Bay/anything by Michael Bay :)
> It seems the second largest continent doesn't hold much interest for us outside of the safari-theme. The people themselves, their struggles, colonial history and post-colonial history...
I think it's difficult to pull a cohesive narrative out of such turmoil. You need to focus on a single event, as in Hotel Rwanda, but the events leading up to the plot of the film would be somewhat lost on the viewers. Doing a sweeping epic would be long and confusing. I think Roots is a good example on how you could do such a complicated topic. A single movie wouldn't be comprehensive enough, a miniseries would be perfect.
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
/*Music is subjective. Sound is not.*/
Agreed. The wife and I saw it a year or two ago. Here's an important incident in modern Africa, in which some say the US had a hand, but it's also a character-driven film. The trials he goes through are very Shakespearean, wouldn't you say?I'm blanking out on the titles now, but there are two other outstanding modern African films we've seen recently. One is about the Rwandan massacre, and the other is about a woman in a small village battling AIDS. I hope somebody with more brain cells can remember the titles for me.
Doug
unforgivably. It is an excellent film many of whose images I cannot forget.
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