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In Reply to: Not interested in watching Brokeback posted by Vinyleer on January 18, 2006 at 13:18:41:
you will miss out a good percentage of all movies, including some of the best ever. Of course, most movies with some sort of love story contain many other elements as well (Brokeback Mountain does and so does Casablanca for example) so it's not at all clear what exactly is a "love story" and what is not.Suit yourself. I'm sure it doesn't really matter to anyone else whether you see this or not. I'm not sure why you thought this was worth announcing.
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***I'm sure it doesn't really matter to anyone else whether you see this or not. I'm not sure why you thought this was worth announcing.I think you are being too hard on him. People's reactions to movies, their likes and dislikes, what makes them want to see some and not others are all pertinent issues here, I think. Social agenda plays important role in some people's minds - remember the 911, the movie? - and therefore his position is relevant. Debatable, sure, but relevant.
I don't mean to be hard on anybody. Let me put it another way."what makes them want to see some and not others are all pertinent issues here"
I would agree, but if those reasons are superficial and insipid, I don't care to hear about them.
As an example, my sister will not go to see any foreign language movies. Period. I have argued with her, but she is adamant. And as you realize, most Americans will not go to see foreign language movies.
Now when a foreign language movie comes out, are we to be subjected to: "I'm an English-speaking American and not interested in foreigners who don't speak English."
This may be true for many people, but I know it already and don't need to hear it over and over. Similarly, everyone knows there are many people who will avoid a gay-themed movie. It's not news. It's not interesting, at least not to me.
Some things we do - or don't do - are meant to send the message to Hollywood... OK, not just Hollywood, but also the whole distribution chain.Today Hollywood seems to be on a mission. Some people there believe they can push their favorite subjects on the public with impunity. In that situation I think it is important to push back - by refusing to see their stuff, as I don't think they are qualified to be our mind controllers - something they are certainly attempting. Hollywood is INCREDIBLY sensitive to the bottom line, and that is where we can hit back.
While there IS some similarity between the case you cited and the one here, there is also great difference. "Foreign movies" encompass so much more than any particular genre that by refusing to see them one severely limits his scope. After all, as I usually say, about 95% of the world is "foreign" to Americans. There are "foreign" films on pretty much ANY subject one might wish to see or investigate.
Also, there certainly has not been any particular "push" behind them, no agenda, no mission.
Things are different with gay movies. Many consider their promotion extremely in your face, and there is good reason for that. Such active promotion calls for active push back, if one disagrees with it.
So in this particular case the position the poster took does get legitimacy.
I have not seen this movie (to put that aside at the start).I think I understand what you're saying -- vote with your money. You don;t want to see a Gay love story that is fine -- people make choices all the time about what they wish to see and what they don't for all sorts of reasons. The foreign press and most film critics seem to be saying about this particular film that indeed the non American Director is a symbal that these are the kinds of films they want to see (if the number of film critics has anything to say - including most foreign countires top film critics).
The stupid thig about all this is that this is HARDLY new. There have been so many films and tv that have gay characters in love in love stories that I can;t see this as being a "token gay love story" that "They" presumably Hollywood but Hollywood is not the THING from outer space it is made up of individuals from around the world, are trying to promote that "Gay is good, so be Gay."
Frankly, I wish a lot more guys were Gay -- that means there is a lot less competition for ME :-)
I'm libertarian leaning - I sure would rather spend a day with Hugh Hefner and Larry Flint than I ever would with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson...and if that means I'm going to hell -- GOOD -- because wherever pat Robertson and Jerry Fallwell end up does not sound like Heaven to me!
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