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• Vengeance is one of the six themes of any Western. You'd prefer to call - tinear 04:19:27 03/03/06 (4)
  In Reply to: vengeance is not the right word posted by tunenut on March 2, 2006 at 18:31:24:

  this a "promise-theme" film???
  Tommy never promised to avenge his friend's death so your opinion would allow Pete to just... bury him.
  
  

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  • if I were forced to use a single word, I would use "loyalty" - minor spoiler... - tunenut 10:16:15 03/03/06 (3)
    In Reply to: Vengeance is one of the six themes of any Western. You'd prefer to call posted by tinear on March 3, 2006 at 04:19:27:

    He does force the border guard to face the consequences of his action. To me, this seems similar to forcing a robber to pay back the money he stole from the victim. I don't see this as vengeance or revenge, more simple (but rough) justice. I guess I see a bit more subtlety to this story than you do. After all, the killing was not intentional. And the border guard is not thoroughly evil. Revenge is certainly common enough in movies, including Westerns, but revenge is usually taken against people who do evil things, not simply make a mistake.
    
    

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    • Not so fast. There was a MAJOR flaw in the film and that - tinear 18:25:14 03/03/06 (1)
      In Reply to: if I were forced to use a single word, I would use "loyalty" - minor spoiler... posted by tunenut on March 3, 2006 at 10:16:15:

      was the fact that it took twenty minutes for Mel to die but the ranger did NOTHING to save him. That's murder.
      Tommy seems to have killing in mind from the beginning: remember the many times he threatened to kill his "prisoner" is he tried to escape... and believably said so?
      Actually, the film seems to be about redemption through revenge: remember the strong point made about the Mexican woman smashing his nose in retribution and forgiving him later?
      Hey, did you notice Levon Helm from the Band? He was the old blind geezer...
      
      

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      • wow that was Levon Helm... - tunenut 19:34:24 03/03/06 (0)
        In Reply to: Not so fast. There was a MAJOR flaw in the film and that posted by tinear on March 3, 2006 at 18:25:14:

        I'm not going to argue opinions, but thanks for telling me that part. I had no idea.
        
        

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    • Re:Good points (nt) - Jeff Starrs 16:31:10 03/03/06 (0)
      In Reply to: if I were forced to use a single word, I would use "loyalty" - minor spoiler... posted by tunenut on March 3, 2006 at 10:16:15:

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• Re: I thought it was.. - Jeff Starrs 01:27:04 03/03/06 (0)
  In Reply to: vengeance is not the right word posted by tunenut on March 2, 2006 at 18:31:24:

  ..a remarkable movie too.
  Less 'slick', more gritty than the Unforgiven.
  Many layered with an extraordinary performance by Barry Pepper.
  Jones acting, directing skills waere just right, IMHO.
  
  

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• Tommy Lee is great in Lonesome Dove - grinagog 22:21:15 03/02/06 (0)
  In Reply to: vengeance is not the right word posted by tunenut on March 2, 2006 at 18:31:24:

  

  another "a mans word is his bond" (Larry McMurtrie) Western
  I enjoyed the followup to this, Streets of Laredo, even more

  If vengeance is the theme; with many a strange twist on the genre;
  
  Peckinpahs Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia is about as dark as it gets... there is NO road to redemption once Warren Oates discovers that happiness is a warm gun

  Grins
  
  
  

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