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In Reply to: Loser posted by dave c on March 6, 2006 at 16:40:03:
the Capote film is more identified with his skilled writing of a book on murderers ,not that he was gay(also I though the actors pertrayoal was very predictable, cartoon like).. Crash was more like a made for tv production, you see this all the time on tv..To identify BB Mountain as only a gay subject story shows you really miss the point of this film. Somehow that doesn't surprise me though. Most of the so calls liberal hollywood coped out big time. They are struggling to keep a struggling system alive.
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WOithin the limits of a mainstream film , I think this did a good job of showing his intense egotism.
Anything outside his focus (lover's novel, film premiere, etc) scarcely gets a look-in as he centres on himself and whatever is his focus of interest.
His obsession with the killer more or less kills off his relationship, he doesn't care for anyone or anything apart from himself and note how he lavishes attention on one and can barely say hello to the other.
Interesting portrayal of the downside of creativity.
... whereas, if you read here much, you might have seen my previous question as to whether or not BM is about being gay at all.
To say I missed the point because I do not agree with you is juvenile at best.
This is exactly what I would expect from perhaps a troll who appears to be somewhat to the right of Atilla The Hun!
If you think there is anything in Hollywood productions, remembering that these are huge multinational corporation, that can be called "liberal" even in an extremist American way, is almost beyond belief.
Do you expect "naturalism" in movies?
Personally I find that a bit like "reality" TV... I want more than ealism from a film and if that pushes it into the area of Crash or a Tarantino film then I say "Great!".
Not that that is the only way to do it, but I found a numer of the big Hollywood productions somewhat underwhelming... BM as well as Munich which was not a patch on its nearest (perhaps) equivalent Paradise Now.
Of the Hollywood films, I thought Transamerica was possibly the best I have seen in the last year, but as I see 2 or 3 films a week and do not care much for awards I do not have to remember them all year.
That a story of two gay lovers is not controversial at all, even gay guys who wind up married at some point and had kids. It was the setting and time that shook people up and made people think--these guys were COWBOYS for goodness sakes, sheepherders in the vast Wyoming expanse, and further, everything was happening in the 1960s, when the public generally acted as if there weren't any gay people. That's what made the film controversial and interesting, not that it was a story about two gay guys who both married and had kids and then had second thoughts about what they had chosen to do. The latter is commonplace in modern society circa 2006 and would certainly not make fodder for a movie let alone a movie nominated as Best Picture.
Number one I am not a f***nk troll. that is such an easy copout term to use. I am not interested in if wether you agree with me or not.My political position is definetly not right, far from it ., again another mistake from you. I don't call them liberal (hollywood studios) ,.A big part of their production was how the hollywood movies have been at the forefront of standing up for causes over the years. , what a bunch of crap. My guess is we are closer to thinking what a good film is then not. ( I am not sure where naturalism comes into this ,again you like to define me with your terms) Do yoy really think Crash was a better film than BB Mountain. Lets face it Hollywood is loosing out to the Independent film makers and still doesn't want to recognise that. Maybe Spelberg finally does though. I have been a big supporter of independent films for a long time and will continue to. I have a feeling you do also.
... and that may be a dabngerous thing!!!
No, I am beginning to think we may be misreading each other's posts as I agree we are probably closer in opinion than it seemed...
Yes, I like independent film... unfortunately I also (sometimes) like to goad people a bit...
I really don't think BM is better than Crash.
But I do think there are number of last year's films better than both.
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That is my profession.
I do small scale residential developments, although its a particularily bad time at the moment with land prices through the roof... if you can find any land!
Here is one
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