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• Ridiculous. In what way "liberal?" If they had been so, the - tinear 13:37:40 03/27/06 (0)
  In Reply to: And it was a fine satire of liberal academic types -- must've had them cringing. nt posted by clarkjohnsen on March 25, 2006 at 09:54:04:

  marriage happily would have carried on.
  Are all intelligent creative people, by definition (in your world), "liberal?"
  If so, don't you feel a bit neurotic?
  
  
  

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• Re: And it was a fine satire of liberal academic types -- must've had them cringing. nt - RMcCoy 07:34:47 03/26/06 (3)
  In Reply to: And it was a fine satire of liberal academic types -- must've had them cringing. nt posted by clarkjohnsen on March 25, 2006 at 09:54:04:

  Yes. That was the whole point of the movie IMO but some wouldn't get it. There was no sympathy, love, fogiveness or understanding sought or given by either parent. They were souless body's trying to make it though a world of relationships that require so much more than intellect to suceed. It was a prime example of why we fail when we think our minds have all the answers we could ever need.
  
  

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  • That's a beautiful addendum and a perfect explanation of why those who don't like the movie... - clarkjohnsen 10:31:35 03/26/06 (2)
    In Reply to: Re: And it was a fine satire of liberal academic types -- must've had them cringing. nt posted by RMcCoy on March 26, 2006 at 07:34:47:

    ...simply don't get it and are themselves probably just as you described.

    clark
    
    

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    • I think you're both reaching just a bit. - sjb 14:07:55 03/26/06 (1)
      In Reply to: That's a beautiful addendum and a perfect explanation of why those who don't like the movie... posted by clarkjohnsen on March 26, 2006 at 10:31:35:

      I think it was an excellent film and didn't just portray divorce well but portrayed being a slightly off middle class (or slightly lower) young teenager in NYC in the early 80's well.

      But it's not that the parents were simply soulless or that the appearance of such was simply because they were liberal academics. They were damaged people who both showed and saw glimpses of soul and heart and struggled against their own damaged-ness but couldn't quite reach their better natures despite said glimpses (how frustrating would that be?) There are people like that in all walks of life, not just liberal academia.

      Also, don't forget this was written through the eyes of their teenaged son. Even though he wrote it as an adult his experience of them and his memory of it was as a teenager.

      
      

      "Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
      
      

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      • Re: I think you're both reaching just a bit. - RMcCoy 10:10:15 03/27/06 (0)
        In Reply to: I think you're both reaching just a bit. posted by sjb on March 26, 2006 at 14:07:55:

        I'm not sure I understand where there was any such reaching in the observations shared. The story was as told as it was, the people were as described, type and all. The reactions and choices by the parents held no hope regardless of their type because they neither held nor taught any foundational principles. They didn't know how to be any other way nor were they seeking any other answers outside of their own selfish desires and intellect. They were clearly depicted as souless by the story teller. Their choices were the cause of the ending results.
        
        

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