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Granted, it was a GOOD movie, but I didn't feel that it was a GREAT one. I did, however, appreciate how Kronenberg used violence in a way that the viewer was able to connect with. In saying that, I mean that (as mentioned in some of his commentary) the viewer finds himself/herself condoning, even hoping for, certain acts of violence that they would otherwise find horrible.
Like I said, good, but... am I missing something? Why was/is this up for so many awards?
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had come to straighten him out. Seriously! My hopes were dashed. It would have been a better movie if it had been my way.
Ex nihilo, nihil fit . . .
One of the worst flicks I've paid to see in the theater in the last couple of years.
I was let down. It was a solid movie that was easy to watch. I thought the sex scenes were gratuitous (though appreciated) and the boy standing up for himself really over done, all of a sudden he becomes Superman? I get it - violence runs in the family, but do we have to be beaten over the heads with it? Still I enjoyed it, just not in the way I expected.
... the moral(?) of the film was violence begets violence, but, when the boy shot the gangster, I thought it more to defend his father, but I can see how you can take it either way.
Violence begets violence may be the point but I think the title refers to the history of Viggo and his family and now his son is violent etc...Actually I was referring to the school scene where he beats up the bully.
I liked the movie but after reading so many reviews dubbing it as the movie of the year or masterpiece etc. I was surprised to see a predictable and somewhat clumsy and obvious script.
I am not a professional reviewer or writer so what do I know?
Granted, "History ..." wasn't a *GREAT* movie and please don't ask me why a movie "earns" awards! ( Crash ? Crash? Crash? )But ...
I thought "History ..." had terrific performances by all. Standouts were William Hurt and Ed Harris playing their roles with relish and flair. Viggo Mortensen was perfectly cast as the shadowy character whose outside doesn't always match the inside. I loved the explosive fight scenes and the Freudian sex scenes were fun too.
Usually violent films don't appeal to me and despite the title, I didn't think this film was violent in a disturbing & jarring way.I know I'll ruffle some feathers here - but film makers like Tarrantino create a *false* suspense based on the threat of what they will show you- instead of "real" non-manipulative suspense based on character development and imagination. This kind of approach leaves me wanting to shower after puking my popcorn.
"History...." violence never got under my skin in an "icky" way and always seemed staged like an action comic .... AND - the acting was superb. The end result for me was a unique and entertaining film.
the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top. The Harris and Hurt roles are the kind for which good actors hold their noses and do for the payoff.
Viggo's hairpiece possibly is the worst in modern film history.
Dang, and he had so much hair in LOTR...lol.
"the waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top."So you would have them pull back? you do realize this movie was based on a grphic novel no?
" The Harris and Hurt roles are the kind for which good actors hold their noses and do for the payoff."
So what was their payoff?
"Viggo's hairpiece possibly is the worst in modern film history."
What makes you think he was wearing one?
" The Harris and Hurt roles are the kind for which good actors hold their noses and do for the payoff."So what was their payoff?
> > > > > > > > Cash.
Or probably you are just being a smart ass. Until the question is given a meaningful answer the assertion lacks substance.
Obviously I can't say for sure what the original poster (Tinear) intended as his point. I assume he was suggesting those actors participated in that shitty movie just for the paycheck. If you want more than that you would be better off posting your condescending comments directly to Tinear.
I did post the question to Tinear. You jumped in with the smart ass comment. Now you are whining about a well deserved reply.
I think you are upset because the answer to your original question (the 2 actors did the film for the $$) is much more obvious that what you had anticipated. Although given your perceptions of what comments are intended to be smart assed and which posters are clueless, it is not unlikely that my interpretation is over your head.
"I think you are upset"You got that wrong. I wouldn't even look at message boards if there was any real chance of being upset by them.
" because the answer to your original question (the 2 actors did the film for the $$) is much more obvious that what you had anticipated."
That wasn't an answer to my original question. That was an assertion by Tinear that led to my original question which was what did they get. No one has managed to come up with an answer to that question.
" Although given your perceptions of what comments are intended to be smart assed and which posters are clueless, it is not unlikely that my interpretation is over your head."
That was a legitimate answer? you weren't being a smart ass? Please say it isn't so. I would have to then down grade your coment from smart ass to dumb ass.
"I think you are upset"You got that wrong. I wouldn't even look at message boards if there was any real chance of being upset by them.
....... lol!!! i hear ya!! good enuff, let's move on....
I thought the contrary. I thought both Ed Harris and Bill Hurt could flex their acting chops and both demonstrated some sides I've never seen from their many prior performances.I saw no evidence of paycheck performance what-so-ever....Does Cronenberg's works represent this to Hollywood actors? I think not.
Viggo might be relieved to know I didn't notice the hairpiece.
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