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• Also if one is watching Fight Club to see a realistic depiction of fighting, or holds the lack thereof against it, - sjb 11:40:38 04/28/06 (8)
  In Reply to: Re: C'mon... posted by Jeff Starrs on April 28, 2006 at 11:28:05:

  then they've missed the point entirely.
  

  "Where are we going? And what am I doing in this hand basket?"
  
  

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  • Really? So what part of the film do you argue we - tinear 15:55:47 04/30/06 (3)
    In Reply to: Also if one is watching Fight Club to see a realistic depiction of fighting, or holds the lack thereof against it, posted by sjb on April 28, 2006 at 11:40:38:

    should take seriously?
    Obviously, you're wrong. The fights are the critical part of the film, meaning to shock the audience into accepting the metaphor.
    The gritty photography, the blood-splattered faces, the manly cuts... all are meant to be "realistic." Well, they are... about as realistic as the drivel served up by Scorscese's "Raging Bull."
    In reality, no man can absorb the kinds of solid blows to the head or jaw these lesser films show and remain conscious, or alive.
    I lived in Portland which is home to the author who is a well-known, local, gay body-builder. My point merely was that if you wish to see a true depiction of that world, see "Schizo."
    If one wishes to settle for romanticized, choreographed play-fighting, see "Fight Club."
    Capiche?
    
    

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    • I guess you went for "missed the point entirely." :-) - sjb 17:33:08 04/30/06 (2)
      In Reply to: Really? So what part of the film do you argue we posted by tinear on April 30, 2006 at 15:55:47:

      You're comparing apples and oranges here.

      Nothing in that movie was being presented as realistic... especially not the fighting.

      Now I'm not advocating their praise of the movie but here are a couple of quotes (from reviewers who understood the movie) that might help...

      "A wickedly funny assault on the soul-destroying nature of 20th-century consumerism"

      "Fight Club is a heady, brutal, raucously funny riot that sucks you into its right-brain fantasy."

      
      But if you wan't to hold onto your idea that anyone would hold it up as a realistic view of bare knuckled fighting then rock on.
      

      "Except for the point, the still point, There would be no dance, and there is only the dance. " T.S. Eliot
      
      

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      • Those fight scenes belong in a cartoon. It's not meant to be one - tinear 06:13:08 05/01/06 (1)
        In Reply to: I guess you went for "missed the point entirely." :-) posted by sjb on April 30, 2006 at 17:33:08:

        so it fails. If the crucial element rings false the rest collapses.
        
        

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        • Re: Those fight scenes belong in a cartoon. It's not meant to be one - Jeff Starrs 03:46:49 05/02/06 (0)
          In Reply to: Those fight scenes belong in a cartoon. It's not meant to be one posted by tinear on May 1, 2006 at 06:13:08:

          Hi,
          You'll probably need to read the book in order to understand the film better, in that case.
          I think sjb understands without having read the book, but it may help, globally, IMHO.
          
          

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  • No kidding. nt - clarkjohnsen 11:36:10 04/29/06 (0)
    In Reply to: Also if one is watching Fight Club to see a realistic depiction of fighting, or holds the lack thereof against it, posted by sjb on April 28, 2006 at 11:40:38:

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  • Re: Worth checking out the book... - Jeff Starrs 12:06:26 04/28/06 (2)
    In Reply to: Also if one is watching Fight Club to see a realistic depiction of fighting, or holds the lack thereof against it, posted by sjb on April 28, 2006 at 11:40:38:

    ...from which the film was made.
    An excellent, dark & funny writer.
    

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    • That is a *killer* first line. Now I'll have to read the thing. - clarkjohnsen 11:41:14 04/29/06 (1)
      In Reply to: Re: Worth checking out the book... posted by Jeff Starrs on April 28, 2006 at 12:06:26:

      I've admired Chuck Palahniuk's shorter stuff and his writing criticism for years.

      clark
      
      

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      • Yeah, I'm gonna have to read it too. In fact I need a good book so I'll probably pick it up today. nt - sjb 12:00:38 04/30/06 (0)
        In Reply to: That is a *killer* first line. Now I'll have to read the thing. posted by clarkjohnsen on April 29, 2006 at 11:41:14:

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        "Except for the point, the still point, There would be no dance, and there is only the dance. " T.S. Eliot
        
        

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