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• It depends on the player - Jack G 10:11:53 05/04/06 (2)
  In Reply to: Question posted by mishmashmusic on May 4, 2006 at 08:03:12:

  Some convert PAL-> NTSC better than others, but you'll still have the 4% speed difference.
  Jack
  
  

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  • That's right, but I think it depends on where the film source was produced, doesn't it? - Audiophilander 10:40:00 05/04/06 (1)
    In Reply to: It depends on the player posted by Jack G on May 4, 2006 at 10:11:53:

    If the source is European it will play at the same rate as on a European television, and I assume that would be the correct speed in which the material was originally shot (let's not even get into pre-sound era material; silent film is a horse of an entirely different color when discussing FPS and PAL/NTSC speed differences).

    I was under the impression that the 4% timing issue arises when PAL displayed programming has been converted from what was originally an NTSC source, not when PAL programming is upconverted and displayed over an NTSC format monitor or projector; please correct me if I'm in error here. I haven't noticed any "sped-up" PAL material over my system, but then again, maybe it isn't a big enough issue to be noticeble in most cases.

    BTW Jack, don't you own an Oppo?

    Cheers,
    AuPh
    
    

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    • Re: That's right, but I think it depends on where the film source was produced, doesn't it? - Jack G 10:59:28 05/04/06 (0)
      In Reply to: That's right, but I think it depends on where the film source was produced, doesn't it? posted by Audiophilander on May 4, 2006 at 10:40:00:

      Yes, I have the Oppo.
      As I understand it, PAL discs, regardless of source when converted to NTSC will be sped up by 4%. Upconverting has nothing to do with it.
      Its really not that noticable, except sometimes in the music-pitch is higher. I have the UK (R2PAL) version of the first season of Battlestar Galactica and the female vocals(not on the US version until second season) are slightly but noticably higher. I'm not all that bothered by it, and don't have alot of PAL discs anyway, but I have talked to other people who are sensative to it. Some complain about pitch, others complain about things like flames flickering too fast, etc.
      Jack
      
      

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• Answer: IMO, the best region free player is the upconverting Oppo. - Audiophilander 09:32:31 05/04/06 (0)
  In Reply to: Question posted by mishmashmusic on May 4, 2006 at 08:03:12:

  The Oppo OPDV971H has supurb digital conversion, Faroudja processing and Oppo's customer/product support is hard to beat. BTW, the Oppo's PAL/NTSC conversion is so good that after setting the region code to "0" (which is a simple menu assisted process) all regions will look stunning, especially from the DVI output!

  > > > "Do you have any issues with PAL vs NTSC on a region-free player?" < < <

  Unless you're refering to more abstract issues, such as which brand of Grey Poupon Clark, Victor and patrick prefer or whether certain international DVDs are kosher (grin), this link should answer all your questions:
  

  • The Oppo OPDV971H   (Open in New Window)

  
  

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• And a good question it is. - clarkjohnsen 08:35:18 05/04/06 (0)
  In Reply to: Question posted by mishmashmusic on May 4, 2006 at 08:03:12:

  As an ex-optical/digital engineer myself, I know that the conversion is no simple matter and any particular realization will be subject to numerous whims.

  Suggest you google, and I'll ask a couple of knowledgeable friends.

  Let's each of us post any results here.

  clark
  
  

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