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In Reply to: Re: I feel pretty--- posted by patrickU on September 20, 2006 at 09:35:19:
(who I'm a fan of as well) the debate was who was the better singer... I do agree with you that Judy was prettier (and a better singer) than Liza. The thing I admire about Ms. Minnelli is that she is a survivor. She has survived drug addiction, alcholism, a rather "unusual" childhood, a knee and 2 hip replacements and viral encephalitis!!! She has worked tirelessly on behalf of countless human causes. Yes, she is overweight now..but that happens to MANY people in later years...Her spirit and talent are what I find appealing...
Those never diminish! As to the film with James Mason you remember...that was A Star Is Born also a Warner Bros. release as with the previously mentioned My Fair Lady. IMO Jack Warner made two mistakes with both of these films...one was NOT casting Julie Andrews (already discussed) and the second was cutting MANY of Ms. Garland's scenes from the final cut of her film. IMO that cost Garland the Oscar which went to Grace Kelly for The Country Girl (who IMO was NOT a good actress- but beautiful). If you like Garland, there is a link for a performance of "By Myself" no other artist to my knowledge has ever performed it in this way....BTW...Patrick ...hope you are doing a little better now in view of your recent loss...you always conduct yourself as a gentleman here...I appreciate that...
Follow Ups:
Every body is beautiful on his very own special way. Of course morality or the lack of it, bad food habit or a too much of drugs left deep imprints in one body and soul.
There is an inner strengh who should councel every one of us.
The respect of a given, better said, a lend body, is the ultimate reverence we can only bow to.
Beside that no one is a judge either for himself nor for other.If she did have done right as you said, we can only admire her.
Grace Kelly was indeed beautiful! At her best when filmed by Hichcock, remember the scene in the Carlton hotel in Cannes?
Nobody can get more of a beauty!Thank you.
Her beauty was incredibly short lived, she didn't have any class even during her best years, and very quickly became a very common looking woman.
I am afraid...She was...German....
was at the pinnacle of her beauty...But IMO she was somewhat of a gold-digger and hence her desire to marry royalty. As Patrick said she was reported to have had many lovers and was somewhat of a nymphomaniac...I've always appreciated her beauty....but felt she was far over-rated as an actress...
BUT she had MANY lovers...I think her parents were very Catholic and VERY rich!
She was much beloved from " her " citizen, in Monaco.
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