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In Reply to: Only question: Does it rise to the rank of The Godfather? I mean, The Departed? posted by clarkjohnsen on October 8, 2006 at 12:36:00:
I've gone to all of his movies and have been VERY disappointed with his last few efforts...Overly long in duration....I haven't been really impressed since The Age Of Innocence. He has IMO self-appointed himself as the modern day Orson Welles and it would seem as though the press has played into his fantasy....I like Scorcese when he steps out of his "comfort" zone...New York, New York...The Age Of Innocence...The Last Temptation Of Christ...The King Of Comedy...he HAS taken some risks in his directing career...I guess I wish he would push the envelope a little further sometimes...IMO I've seen enough "thug" & "cops & robbers" from him to last me a lifetime!!!!
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You didn't mention "Raging Bull", which many consider the best film of the eighties. Ditto "Goodfellas" for the nineties. Agree you, though, on "Bringing out the Dead", Kundun", and "Gangs of New York".
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*** I Feel Strongly Both Ways ***
I always thought Gangs Of New York died on the cutting room floor. One day there might be a director's cut but I suspect it could be 8 hours long. Aviator was enjoyable but seemed thin to me again it might have made a better mini-series...
"Goodfellas" was the best film of the 90s.
No redeeming characters, unceasing violence and murder for a "plot."
"Raging Bull,"Goodfellas," are ugly, pessimistic and amoral visions of the human condition. Yes, they may be "realistic" as far as the people they portray, but who cares about such scum? Really. They are "Schindler's List" without... Schindler. "Art" that paints such a hideous picture is minor.
Saw down below that you had seen Infernal Affairs. I missed that one. How do they compare?
Not from Scorsese.Quite the reverse.
From my own perspective, althought I admire Scorcese's prowess as a filmmaker, I'm not really drawn to watching the films you list on a repeated basis. Certainly not the way I'm drawn to the films of countless other directors.I, too, would like to see something uplifting and life-affirming, rather than squalid, mean-spirited, violent, etc., etc.
But...Violent though they may be, I would never EVER say Scorsese's films are mean-spirited or squalid. I hope you mean the characters in the movies and not the films themselves.
I am quite OK if you prefer to watch uplifting and life-affirming movies. People want different things from their movie experiences.
But I like to watch great films, movies that probe and push the limits, so some of those films *will* deal with the dark side of human nature: obsession, greed, guilt and betrayal. Scorsese's passion and feeling pulse through his films. I'm always puzzled when people don't see it. But such is life.
BTW, it's Scor S ese with an "s"!
FWIW...I think Raging Bull IS his finest film...the other films I mention go against the grain...For instance New York,New York was shot entirely on the sound stages @ MGM/Sony Studios...the New York sets were recreated in the 40's method before location shooting...In NY/NY DeNiro gives his most understated/nuanced performance of his career (see Falling In Love for another example)...he IMO was overlooked by the Academy for that film unjustly....
I HAVE seen "Falling in Love" and it is a long time favorite. Both he and Meryl gave wonderfully realistic performances.
Meryl was very good as well...
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