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• Re: And Rey was perfect as the villain in "The French Connection." nt - rico 05:47:37 10/19/06 (1)
  In Reply to: And Rey was perfect as the villain in "The French Connection." nt posted by tinear on October 18, 2006 at 14:25:06:

  I think that's the role most Americans would know him by.
  
  

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  • And it is quite sad... ain't it? (nt) - Victor Khomenko 07:46:35 10/19/06 (0)
    In Reply to: Re: And Rey was perfect as the villain in "The French Connection." nt posted by rico on October 19, 2006 at 05:47:37:

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• Yes, but his best roles were in the Bunuel's films - Victor Khomenko 16:17:51 10/18/06 (14)
  In Reply to: And Rey was perfect as the villain in "The French Connection." nt posted by tinear on October 18, 2006 at 14:25:06:

  Arguably, of course...
  

  
  
  
  

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  • Alter ego. nt - patrickU 09:32:54 10/19/06 (12)
    In Reply to: Yes, but his best roles were in the Bunuel's films posted by Victor Khomenko on October 18, 2006 at 16:17:51:

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    • Not exactly: you should have seen Rey´s previous roles in films under Franquist directors... - orejones 03:05:35 10/20/06 (1)
      In Reply to: Alter ego. nt posted by patrickU on October 19, 2006 at 09:32:54:

      ...and keep in mind how darkly sarcastic Buñuel´s sense of humour used to be, to get the full picture of their relationship, and of why Buñuel insisted in developing that image of Fernando Rey...

      Regards

      BF
      
      

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      • Re: Not exactly: you should have seen Rey´s previous roles in films under Franquist directors... - patrickU 04:39:46 10/20/06 (0)
        In Reply to: Not exactly: you should have seen Rey´s previous roles in films under Franquist directors... posted by orejones on October 20, 2006 at 03:05:35:

        Remember this wonderful book " My Last Sight " we spoke of long time ago?
        As for his work under Franco, if I have seen some of the films, I can not remember any.
        
        
        

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    • Surely beats Jean-Pierre Léaud - that one makes me puke - Victor Khomenko 11:26:40 10/19/06 (9)
      In Reply to: Alter ego. nt posted by patrickU on October 19, 2006 at 09:32:54:

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      • Re: Surely beats Jean-Pierre Léaud - that one makes me puke - patrickU 12:21:57 10/19/06 (8)
        In Reply to: Surely beats Jean-Pierre Léaud - that one makes me puke posted by Victor Khomenko on October 19, 2006 at 11:26:40:

        While I know your aversion of him, I am not THAT disgusted about him.
        
        

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        • He epitomises the insignificant self-absorbed individual, in my view - Victor Khomenko 12:32:40 10/19/06 (7)
          In Reply to: Re: Surely beats Jean-Pierre Léaud - that one makes me puke posted by patrickU on October 19, 2006 at 12:21:57:

          A twit with big ego. He is also so feminine I can't visualise him in a male lover role.
          

          
          
          
          

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          • Re: He epitomises the insignificant self-absorbed individual, in my view - patrickU 13:02:52 10/19/06 (6)
            In Reply to: He epitomises the insignificant self-absorbed individual, in my view posted by Victor Khomenko on October 19, 2006 at 12:32:40:

            He depicting a moment and a place you have missed not being in ...France.
            It was early 60´s and continued until the student " revolution " into the seventies.
            He is a product of the cinematography of this time, in this context, you can " see " him.
            But your aversion to him...
            
            

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            • True to an extent - Victor Khomenko 14:29:10 10/19/06 (5)
              In Reply to: Re: He epitomises the insignificant self-absorbed individual, in my view posted by patrickU on October 19, 2006 at 13:02:52:

              I kind of feel what you are saying, I understand all that, but being part of history, even being completely true to a part of history, doesn't make one significant or pleasant or interesting.

              In addition, French cinema of that time produced some truly great actors. In his case his physical size is commensurate with his presence, I think.
              

              
              
              
              

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              • Re: Just a pawn in a game-- - patrickU 05:15:58 10/20/06 (0)
                In Reply to: True to an extent posted by Victor Khomenko on October 19, 2006 at 14:29:10:

                After reading this post of yours I had to force myself and tried to get back then.
                So with a small effort I could.
                He was just a player at FT wish, having the same love live as he had. AND many could identify themselves in him.
                Just the life between the Pill and AIDS and a touch of grass.
                The lightness of being....

                
                
                

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              • He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne. He occupies a special place in - tinear 04:14:59 10/20/06 (3)
                In Reply to: True to an extent posted by Victor Khomenko on October 19, 2006 at 14:29:10:

                the French heart because of his brilliantly sensitive turn in "400 Blows."
                In Truffaut's later trilogy, he played an extremely sensitive (not quite Woody Allen-ish), well educated, and yes, self-absorbed character. He did so very well.
                
                

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                • Re: He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne. He occupies a special place in - patrickU 05:22:12 10/20/06 (0)
                  In Reply to: He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne. He occupies a special place in posted by tinear on October 20, 2006 at 04:14:59:

                  That is true. And yet he still makes movies, but has no real importance today cinama world.
                  At least in mine.
                  As for the great French actors that was the time before and just after the last war.
                  
                  

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                • "He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne." No? Well, OK... but I'd take Belmondo any day - Victor Khomenko 05:09:23 10/20/06 (1)
                  In Reply to: He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne. He occupies a special place in posted by tinear on October 20, 2006 at 04:14:59:

                  Heck, he wasn't even supposed to be Jean Gabin or dozens of others...

                  But we are beating a dead horse. Screw that guy... maybe if he was a tad over 6' things would have been different?
                  

                  
                  
                  
                  

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                  • I think he was very effective in Last Tango, too. I once sat next to him in - tinear 18:01:09 10/20/06 (0)
                    In Reply to: "He wasn't supposed to be John Wayne." No? Well, OK... but I'd take Belmondo any day posted by Victor Khomenko on October 20, 2006 at 05:09:23:

                    an outdoor table in a Paris cafe. He had two babes draped over him: so much for your sexual theory. He gesticulated exactly as he does on film: for a moment, I thought I was watching someone do an impersonation. Really.
                    
                    

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  • Oh yeah, I didn't mean to equate the quality of "French C" to Bunuel! - tinear 17:31:12 10/18/06 (0)
    In Reply to: Yes, but his best roles were in the Bunuel's films posted by Victor Khomenko on October 18, 2006 at 16:17:51:

    Rey is that most elusive of actors: he realistically projects intelligence, refinement, education... in short, class. Mastroianni is another. Gassman, too.
    Americans? Gregory Peck is probably our best example, with Jimmy Stewart in there, too.
    
    

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