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What the f#ck is this? Last time I heard DVDs were meant to rid the world of laser rot. Must everything undergo planned obsolescence?When I asked the store personel why their DVDs were all beginning to s#ck, they informed me that they wear out. In fact, they've bought the same titles several times since they play continuously. Sure enough, I looked at the offending DVDs & the surface looks positively new. No finger prints, no haze, & no scratches. However, since the bits are substantially smaller than CDs, I buffed it anyway in case the problems are invisible to naked eye inspection to no avail. The pictures still looks like a bad satellite feed.
Just when DVDs are getting DVDO progressive scan & 3:2 pull-down & 12 bit video processing at useable rate & with 3-D DNR, which convinced me to buy as soon as I found these features in a single player. Then, this DIVX-esque news hits the fan.
....just my 2¢
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where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
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Perhaps rental DVDs just live a rougher life - short and brutish. I mean, were you ever able to rent CDs?Andrew
also had good results from renting LDs.
....just my 2¢
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where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
You have to understand that DVDs, like CDs, are encoded digitally. Things don't really "wear out" in the same way as, say, an LP. Read errors, etc., that can happen with damage from scratches or whatever on the disk surface. The "pits" don't degrade, though, and turn into slow deterioration of picture quality.Doug Schneider
... but haven't had MusicLifePlus wear out yet. Of course, they don't wear out as fast as CDRWs. In fact, I think one of my CDs (FYI: Led Zepellin "Remasters") are wearing out. I Polished the hell out of the CD & it still skips without a single scratch. I just figured the burn was insufficiently deep which may be more problematic on smaller pits.
....just my 2¢
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where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
CD-Rs and RWs are more susceptible to damage than standard CD. Intense light, heat, etc. can affect their readability.Doug Schneider
Ok, skipping, etc., is a form of wearing out, but is not a gradual degradation in the same way an LP is.Skipping is caused when the laser cannot read the pits, simply. This can be caused by scratches or various other forms of deterioration. DVDs are more susceptible to this because of the smaller pit size compared to CD.
Doug Schneider
SoundStage!
Which DVD title wouldn't play? Although I have rented some DVD's that were an absoulute mess (finger-prints scratches greasy surfaces etc)
I have always been able to clean them and make them playable. If this is true that DVD's wear out it is bad news indeed.
You know, it really doesn't surprise me it if is true that they do wear out. Goddam throw out society we live in.
MiKe
I'm in DVD manufacture, and I can confirm that DVD's are not designed to wear out. Thats not to say that if they get excessively scratched, or the reflective layer oxidizes or deterioates that they won't stop playing, but the technology is very simular to that of CD, although the construction of the disc is a little different.In fact we have press lines that can do both!
Roland
They aren't old enough to oxidize. And, since they play continuously, they hardly see the drawers to scratch the surface, nor see any finger prints which were confirmed visually.What's going on to all the DVDs in the various store players?
....just my 2¢
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where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
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My post was re the original question, which was I here that DVD's are deliberatly designed to wear out! The answer I gave was accurate and that is NO. Thats not to say that problems can occur with the things I mentioned and of course the flexing that someone else mentioned.Roland
That can still play new DVDs flawlessly ... well as good as all those different model generic DVD players can. They are all different midfi units.
....just my 2¢
» Mart £ «
Planar Asylum
where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
Of course not. I just find it hard to believe but you never know. Given the binary nature of digital technology I'd expect it to either play or not play, unless the loss of certain bits in the stream somehow causes bad quality.
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....just my 2¢
» Mart £ «
Planar Asylum
where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
One thing for sure is that DVDs are not as durable as CDs. I've found that excessive "flexing" -- for example when you pull it from the case -- can cause permament damage.Doug Schneider
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....just my 2¢
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where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
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