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In Reply to: Re: A list of mediocrity.... posted by patrickU on November 12, 2006 at 02:02:11:
It is one think to disagree with the content or the order it is nother thing to declare the list one of mediocrity. The Godfather was medioce? Casablanca was mdiocre? A Clockwork Otange was mediocre? Citizen Caine was mediocre? Shall I go on? That is just the tip of the iceberg. I think you have offered a knee jerk reaction at best.
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Analog Scott,I think it may be the interposition of what appears to be so much junk among great movies such as those you named that turns so many off, including me.
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in such a large list. At least it will be junk to an individual. As I said before, I was actually surprised by just how little obvious junk was in this list. But to dismiss it out of hand as a list of mediocre movies is throwing out the proverbial baby with the bath water. It would be more interesting to discuss the abberations that each of us sees in the list rather than whine about how stupid the masses are. Frankly they look pretty smart given the content of this list. there just isn't going to be a concensus on greatness in any artistic endevour. Certainly not on a scale of 250 entries.
...That was simply unwatchable.
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i had no trouble watchning The Lord of the Rings.I think it is a great cinematic achievement. One of the greatest actually. Not without it's flaws to be sure but in the grand scheme of things I find it an amazing achievement indeed. I am still at a loss to explain the severe negative reatcion some have to this trilogy. I am also amazed that otherwise savvy folks would be completely incapable of seeing *any* of it's merits. Kind of reminds me of some music snobs' reactions to rock and roll back in the fifties. "That's just noise!" Amazing howsome with a reasonable level of musical knowledge would be so completely wrong about a genre. I realize not everyone is into myth on such a pure level but for some to be so blinded by biases and prejudices as to fail to see any of this production's virtues still amazes and surprises me.
You should go on...
of the films on this list that I have seen these are the ones i would say are anything but mediocre.The Godfather
The Shawshank Redemption
The Godfather: Part II
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Casablanca
Schindler's List
Shichinin no samurai
Pulp Fiction
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Star Wars
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Rear Window
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
12 Angry Men
Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Usual Suspects
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Citizen Kane
Goodfellas
Psycho
North by Northwest
Memento
The Silence of the Lambs
Lawrence of Arabia
Sunset Blvd.
Vertigo
Taxi Driver
Apocalypse Now
Se7en
To Kill a Mockingbird
Chinatown
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Boot, Das
The Bridge on the River Kwai
L.A. Confidential
The Maltese Falcon
Alien
Requiem for a Dream
Hotel Rwanda
A Clockwork Orange
Metropolis
Double Indemnity
Reservoir Dogs
The Shining
Modern Times
Raging Bull
The Manchurian Candidate
Aliens
Rebecca
Some Like It Hot
The Great Escape
All About Eve
Million Dollar Baby
2001: A Space Odyssey
Amadeus
The Sting
Jaws
Forrest Gump
On the Waterfront
Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
The Wizard of Oz
Braveheart
Kill Bill: Vol. 1
TThe Apartment
9Blade Runner
9Nuovo cinema Paradiso
9The Elephant Man
Full Metal Jacket
High Noon
Ran
Fargo
Cool Hand Luke
The Sixth Sense
Unforgiven
Annie Hall
Ben-Hur
Back to the Future
Life of Brian
The Princess Bride
The Deer Hunter
Kind Hearts and Coronets
The Graduate
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
Gladiator
The African Queen
Gandhi
Borat
8½
Duck Soup
The Conversation
Harvey
Stand by Me
Dog Day Afternoon
Patton
The Wild Bunch
Glory
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Spartacus
Finding Neverland
A Christmas Story
The Grapes of Wrath
Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
The Exorcist
Shrek
Big Fish
The Big Lebowski
King Kong
The Hustler
Walk the Line
Sleuth
The Terminator
Stalag 17
Young Frankenstein
Manhattan
Sling Blade
Bonnie and Clyde
The Thing
All Quiet on the Western Front
Arsenic and Old Lace
Scarface
Inherit the Wind
Doctor Zhivago
Harold and Maude
A Streetcar Named Desire
A Man for All Seasons
Little Miss Sunshine
Planet of the ApesOf the titles I ommitted from the list 30 were due to my opinion that they were less than excellent. Only three sank to the level of mediocrity IMO. The rest were ommitted because I simply didn't see them. If this truly is a list of mediocre films surely you could list 250 films that are plainly and undeniably better than *any* on this list. No, I don't think this is a definitive list of the best movies ever made. It would be impossible to make such a list. There are IMO gross ommissions but, as I said before, yours was at best a knee jerk reaction to a list that is largely comprised of great movies, many amoung the greatest and best movies ever made. Pretty remarkable really considering it is a survey from such a broad base of people.
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