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Have you never met a self-absorbed person of a "lower" class?

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Victor Khomenko

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In Reply to: Of course you're right. But the poor cannot go to a private island posted by tinear on November 14, 2006 at 08:52:09:

Funny... the setting is just the setting, it is what inside the two personas that matters, and their feelings are not particular to their classes, they are common to the class called mankind.
When you go ga-ga over a film showing the life of the poor and disprivileged... you never comment that their emotions, pains, suffering, joy, love, etc are unque that that underclass and therefore has no bearing on how you, presumably a middle class guy, live.
Emotional and physical sufferings stip people of their class. Audrey and Jackie suffered before their death just like a coctail waitress does, and the fact they came from upper class does not make their pain any less palpable.

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Re: Have you never met a self-absorbed person of a "lower" class? - Gee LP 19:24:57 11/17/06 (2)
I must agree with Victor on this, tin...
As a teacher of low-income students in Shreveport, Louisiana (how low? One asked if I were rich because, after all, I "came to school in clean pants every day!"), I find that they can be just as self-absorbed as the women in "Persona", hell, just as self-absorbed as me. Class and wealth should not be used as an indicator of a person's worth.
Besides, I can sit through a lot of rich neurotic self-absorbtion for that monologue! At least we agree there!
- Victor seized on "self-absorption," not I. The point is that only the rich - tinear 04:35:03 11/20/06 (1)
  can lead a life in which that is the consuming, defining paradigm: the poor would end up on a street, in a cardboard container. Financial survival is a cruel master but it does keep one grounded.
  I don't know why people seem to feel wealth creates no "space" from others: it does. The lives of the rich are quite different and it's not just the possessions: not to worry about one's next meal, rent check, etc. is a MAJOR impactor on life. The greatest one, actually, since survival is our strongest instinct.
  One needn't be a card-carrying Commie to point out differences in economic class, ours is an extremely class rigid society.
  Anyhow, a poor person's descent into a mental illness which paralyzed her would have a hell of a lot more drama. Go to a private island, have a 24-hr. a day governess for whom you harbor unspoken lusts: hardly the stuff of riveting drama, URGENCY, eh?
  If that's a serious problem, let Bibi Andersson know that I'd gladly have suffered it!
  - Re: Victor seized on "self-absorption," not I. The point is that only the rich - Rod H. 08:44:14 11/20/06 (0)
    It doesn't make the film bad, just not the film you seem to want to make.
    Check out "The Passion of Anna" to see a few characters in less than wealthy circumstances, and psychological distress, living on the same island.
    Rod

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