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In Reply to: I can't believe your take on this... posted by EBerlin on November 14, 2006 at 20:49:59:
a film which, being a Bergman vehicle, has thought behind it.
My point is that, like Freud, Bergman has centered upon the neurosis of a middle-class woman. Great art should have great subjects: Imagine Hamlet without Claudius's crime. He'd be just another disaffected teenager, wouldn't he?
Poor little filthy rich actress and her nurse/governess: boohoo. Where's the dynamic struggle? Mental illness? Not really, is it? She seems to be playing a game, as the whispering scene suggests.
Yes, it's a clever, entertaining, and beautiful film but it's not great. And, yes, I understand the playing off of the persona of an individual, of an actress, and of another person that is NOT an actresss... what is real and what is artifice.
In the end, superficial people, both of them, and not very "important."
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...I hear what you're saying but I'm sorry I just think you don't get it at all. Not that I even think there's a single interpretation to "get." I think it's best if I leave it at that.
The point is that Bergman himself couldn't tell us what we are missing. It's a different film to each of us, and different each time we view it. This makes it great to me personally. If this sounds like a copout, sorry.
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