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In Reply to: Re: "Casino Royale:" posted by Bulkington on November 21, 2006 at 14:36:12:
the 007 of Ian Fleming's books. Craig is charmless, wooden, and has no idea of how to treat a woman: rolling around on the carpet? As I said, "high schoolish."
If I say "go back and re-visit Dr. No if you wish to see a flesh and blood hero and a film made for an adult audience" you'd mistakenly go on and on about how I was expecting a re-hash.
I don't realize if you unfairly argue purposefully or out of lack of skill?
Anyhow, the best martial arts films of the past years have elevated the skill factor of filmed fights. CR's are overly loud (a punch sounds nothing like a steel hammer smashing onto a large metallic surface with a microphone next to it). Here again, you create yet another false analogy, the Jackie Chan strawman.
CR is a film geared to adolescent boys at whom these sorts of movies Hollywood targets. Not too much sex (to offend the parents or get, horrors, a "17" rating).
Lots of explosions and chases.
Now, if you wish to see a real blonde hitman, rent the original "The Day of the Jackal."
That character has everything Craig's Bond does not but exactly is what Fleming had in mind: mysterious, cold-blooded, and an experierenced hand with beautiful women.
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What martial arts films are you talking about? The only ones a film like CR should be taking any cues from are the Bourne movies and, yes, Steven Segal movies (whose only real virtue is their authentic fight scenes. Jackie Chan was sarcasm; Jet Li wasn't. Are you arguing for Hong-Kong stylings? Those films may raise the bar, but not for films aspiring to any semblance of realism. I thought the opening bathroom brawl was refreshing, esp. for a Bond film; I esp. thought that of the fight in the stairwell, the seriousness of which was underscored both by Bond's not having come away unscathed and by Green's character's subsequent trauma.CR is a film geared to adolescent boys at whom these sorts of movies Hollywood targets. Not too much sex (to offend the parents or get, horrors, a "17" rating).
It's a popular offering that has actually added some maturity to the original Bond films, which were geared to adolescent, Playboy-reading, Heffner-wannabe, attic jerk-offs.
Now, if you wish to see a real blonde hitman, rent the original "The Day of the Jackal."
"Blonde hitman" is a category? He's to be judged against the assassin in Day of the Jackel (who demonstrates what kind of range ?) because of the color of his hair? Weird.
That character has everything Craig's Bond does not but exactly is what Fleming had in mind: mysterious, cold-blooded, and an experierenced hand with beautiful women.
That assassin could not have convincingly won any of the brawls Craig's was involved in. You're arguing for updated fight scenes, which CR had, while arguing for a style of actor not at all equal to them.
And in fact we don't know anything about Craig's Bond's hand with beautiful women, and though the old "Oh James!" convention could, I guess, have cleared doubts, we can guess at Green's character's satisfaction. But forget his hand! We're left to wonder at his pinky!
As for rolling around on carpets: are they reserved instead for not-so-beautiful women? "Beautiful" women have special needs others don't? Some people, men or women, beautiful or not, but fit and adventurous enough and free of orthopedic concerns, like alternative locations for their love-making, or, as is often the case, even for beautiful people, raw, physical sex-having, which often goes hand-in-hand with the danger and excitement of marital infidelity. Quibbling with carpets? Please. You're reaching.
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