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• because I didn't see it on LD Mart 00:10:24 03/25/01 (7)
  In Reply to: What are you doing watching tapes anyway? n/t posted by clarkjohnsen on March 24, 2001 at 11:12:30:

  & I have learned not to watch a DVD. The artifacts are just too numerous to mention.
  

  ....just my 2¢
  

  
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  Planar Asylum
  where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
  
  
  
  

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  • Boy, get that progressive scan DVD, now! (nt) Victor Khomenko 08:31:07 03/26/01 (1)
    In Reply to: because I didn't see it on LD posted by Mart on March 25, 2001 at 00:10:24:

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    • that's why I hold out hope for the EAD Mart 00:56:30 03/27/01 (0)
      In Reply to: Boy, get that progressive scan DVD, now! (nt) posted by Victor Khomenko on March 26, 2001 at 08:31:07:

      It was touted as a working Denon. It was everything save the 12 bit video DAC. It only has the standard 10 bit. So, I expect to still view banding, but the DVDO progressive 3-D scan ... with 3:2 pull down ability & detection. So, it solves most of my concerns save the fact my year old EAD pre/pro isn't upto the task, nor is the upgrade a valid solution, IMHO.
      

      ....just my 2¢
      

      
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      Planar Asylum
      where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
      
      
      
      

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  • Re: because I didn't see it on LD ChuckMoe 12:12:41 03/25/01 (4)
    In Reply to: because I didn't see it on LD posted by Mart on March 25, 2001 at 00:10:24:

    > > learned not to watch a DVD. The artifacts are just too numerous to mention. < <

    ?????....there is typically far less artifacts on DVD (and typically better video) than LD offers. It sounds like you haven't seen DVD being displayed at it's best.

    Peace
    
    

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    • I hold some hope out for the EAD new DVD player but all Mart 21:37:23 03/25/01 (2)
      In Reply to: Re: because I didn't see it on LD posted by ChuckMoe on March 25, 2001 at 12:12:41:

      the $½-2k units I've seen were distractingly poor. They looked like GIF files through a bad satellite feed.
      

      ....just my 2¢
      

      
      » Mart £ «

      
      Planar Asylum
      where the speakers are thin but the music is anything but
      
      
      
      

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      • Re: I hold some hope out for the EAD new DVD player but all ChuckMoe 10:28:07 03/26/01 (1)
        In Reply to: I hold some hope out for the EAD new DVD player but all posted by Mart on March 25, 2001 at 21:37:23:

        That's too bad that the players you've seen in that price range have been so poor. Believe me when I tell you that I have seen quite a few DVD players in that price range that have none of those artifacts you refer too. For example, the Pioneer DVD-37, Sony 9000ES, Toshiba 6200 and 9200. All of these players properly setup into a good (properly setup) progressive capable display provide great images. You must have seen poor setups for your demos. Maybe you saw an interlaced output being linedoubled without 3:2 pulldown (that'll cause artifacts). Regardless, you should give the above mentioned players another shot, 'cause I don't think you saw what these players are capable of. If you were in the Boulder, CO area, I'd be able to show firsthand how well a Tosh 9200 looks going through a Key Digital tranducer into the RGBHV input of a Loewe Planus...stunning. All we are saying....Is give DVD a chance...sorry, couldn't resist...;-)

        Peace,
        Chuck

        
        
        

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        • Re: I hold some hope out for the EAD new DVD player but all RGA 20:56:50 03/26/01 (0)
          In Reply to: Re: I hold some hope out for the EAD new DVD player but all posted by ChuckMoe on March 26, 2001 at 10:28:07:

          Just to add that even the entry level Pioneer DV333 is far better than any VHS player. After owning an LD and top flight VHS models players and now a DVD machine...I see no valid argument for artifact problems...although some discs themselves have some of these that were not evident on LD. For examle the English Patient on LD is much better than the DVD print...and I'm not convinced by those that say that Jaws is better on DVD. The DVD of of Jaws has a darker tint...that however does not make it better, indeed on some sequences it seems washed out.

          However, the new Terminator 2 edition is as good, if not better, on the $300.00 DVD33 player than the top of the line Pioneer Elite LD player of just 2 years ago...the model # escapes me.

          The artifacts, fuzz, and lack of widescreen should hopefully very soon eliminated those clunky VHS tapes.
          
          

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    • Agree! n/t clarkjohnsen 13:34:29 03/25/01 (0)
      In Reply to: Re: because I didn't see it on LD posted by ChuckMoe on March 25, 2001 at 12:12:41:

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