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Gitmo

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A documentary on America's concentation camp in Guantanamo. Made by a Swede who travels to Gitmo and is given the mushroom treatment, kept in the dark and fed BS. Interviews with Karpinski, who comes of very well, and Marshall who turned Gitmo techniques over to Abu Gharab for implementation there. Well documented stonewalling by the military. Should give you chills if you are an American. The point it makes clearly by shoing the resolute face of one former inmate, Gitmo is a recruitment center for Al Quida; these hundreds of men, and their thousands of relatives, if they were not willing to die attacking the US before they were kidnapped and tortured, will now be willing to fly an aircraft into the World Trade Center.

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There is probably no part of our "war on terror"... - mkuller 11:44:26 12/21/06 (6)
...where the current administration hasn't screwed up big time and created 1000s more terrorists than before.
Lack of impulse control and acting before you think things out carefully and plan for contigencies will do that every time.
The tragedy of Gitmo is that now we are secretly releasing many of thesse prisoners to other countries where they are being set free - now that we have radicalized them.
- Frankly... - dave c 13:04:11 12/21/06 (5)
  ... I assume that is THE purpose.
  To continually renew the need for and the desire to buy armaments by, well, by just about anyone.
  It also justifies the HUGE budgets that military and security organisations get each year.
  Just like the "war on drugs" its in the interests of the criminal and near criminal organisations that operate in these areas to maintain the status quo.
  If these wars worked, then lets have a war on poverty and ignorance.
  Increasing the hatred means the US army will be going to more and more countries, and please remember that appears as an EXPORT on the balance of payments.
  Illegal drugs is loved by criminals as it keeps the price high, and is THE ROOT CAUSE of much street crime and house breaking as addicts struggle to pay.
  Simply treating ALL drugs in the manner of alcohol would ruin the criminal organisations at a stroke, but then the police and military would have a hard job getting their budgets paid.
  Its almost as if the entire world was one big conspiracy...
  AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  - I tend to think... - mkuller 18:33:05 12/21/06 (0)
    ...it's due stupidity, ignorance and denial than a conspiracy.
    Nothing leads me to believe they're that smart to pull one off.
    Republicans have always promoted a bigger military.
  - Re: Frankly... - townsend 13:34:02 12/21/06 (3)
    And wouldn't you know--Bush says we (Americans, that is) NEED A BIGGER ARMY.
    Surprise, surprise: the catastrophic U.S. foreign policy, especially since 9/11, has created more enemies! Go figure.
    Now perhaps we should reanalyze U.S. foreign policy, but hey, that's called introspection, and the Bush White House will have none of that.
    Dave, please know that there are many Americans who are ashamed of current U.S. foreign policy (and, I might add, many past U.S. foreign policies). I appreciate your posts.
    - Thanks - dave c 13:41:06 12/21/06 (2)
      I know a lot of Americans are very reasonable friendly people.
      People let down by both the administration and in my opinion by what used to be referred to as the military-industrial complex.
      Perhaps at some point we will all wake up to the fact that being paranoid really is the only response!
      - your CD is on the way - Duilawyer 10:02:33 12/24/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Thanks posted by dave c on December 21, 2006 at 13:41:06:
        
        and I am proud to say I am and was bannned from outside for my vociferous anti-war posting and Neocon battling.
        From before the war started to the day I was banned for battling the Neocons there, I remained firmly against the war, correctly predicting its folly ("a rapid victory followed by a slow and agonizing defeat" I called it) and the turn of support of the American people ("their support is a mile wide and an inch deep" I wrote) and in retrospect, was correct.
        
        As a similarily banned... - dave c 11:47:59 12/24/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: your CD is on the way posted by Duilawyer on December 24, 2006 at 10:02:33:
        
        person, I am amazed that outside where the wild things run is such a sensitive area as soon as you get into certain areas.
        I can't even remember how long I have been banned for but when its for expressing opinions and you get a moderator sending kiddie porn to your email simultaneously with the start of a TOTAL ban from the asylum, you wonder how some people have immunity and some of us apparently have evil opinions... and what exactly is the difference.
        I mean why go there if you don't like it?
        I am looking forward to getting the CD. Thanks, Dui.

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