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In Reply to: Modernizing film sound posted by rico on January 2, 2007 at 14:09:18:
I want the films as they were made and meant to be seen and heard.
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If you were to watch the latest DVD versions of "Barry Lyndon" and "Full Metal Jacket" you would opt for the mono sound track? You would do mono on the latest DVD of "The Terminator"? You'd do mono on the latest DVD of "Chinatown"? Mono on "Bullitt"? Etc.
I'm not inot revisionist film making.
What if the directr approves of the "revision"? Do you refuse to watch the Scott Director's cut of "Blade Runner? Or the Coen director's cut of "Blood Simple", How about Kubrick's excising of 19 minutes of ""2001..." AFTER it opened?
It really depends on the circumstances. Genuine directors cuts are the real original work as it was made at that time. I am all for these things being released. But when we are talking about directors going back and revising things years after the fact I find it tends to get a bit dodgey. Just look at what Lucas did to his own work with Star Wars. I thought the new version of the Exorcist was interesting along with the discussion of the revisions by Friedkin and Blatty. I found their discussions very enlightning and their revisions to be very thoughtful. In the end I liked the original better. In fact I gained a new and greater appreciation for it. I think studios coming in and modernizing sound tracks for the sake of sales is not much different than colorizing black and white films for the same reason. I'd rather see the original intent. In many cases that would be the revised director's cut. Rarely is it the new surround sound version of a vintage movie.
Only one word: horror.
Imagine a silent picture with 5.1 synthetiser music. Like in Metropolis...Brrrrrrrr
Moroder was the bastard.
For luck we have this sound knob...
I have a laser disc of Greed" with an original score by Carl Davis, who also conducts. It is in stereo and I play it back using the dolby Pro Logic II Music codec in my pre-amp/processor. It in NO way detracts from the film's magnificence and,indeed, increases my suspension of disbelief and involvement. I wish it were in full discrete Dolby Digital 5.1 ES or, better yet, its DTS counterpart. We're talking MUSIC here, not dialogue or effects.
DTS Movie sound much better than DDII, on most all the films I have tried.
I spoke of mono movies, for the stereo it is also my finding.
I wasn't advocating sound codecs as much as I was directly commenting on your paost that a 5.1 version of a silent film would be "horrors".
But for me.
for every time they actually get lucky and don't disrupt the original balance of a film there will be dozens of proverbial abortions in surrouns sound. The thing is every movie is made in a time and place with the given technologies and sensibilities of that time and place and those artists that made the film. All artistic decisions affect all other artistic decisions in the shooting ,cutting and scoring of a film. To go in and radically atler one element without upsetting the balances of the other elements and the sensibilities of the artists in that time and that place. I'd much rather have any resources spent on film preservation and restoration. Use new ideas and new technologies on new films
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