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Rented this last night at the recommendation of a friend. What he saw in it is beyond me. I cannot believe this is up for best picture. And Alan Arkin's character, tho he be a fine actor, was mediocre and not even much involved ( other than his torso)......yet he's up for an academy award individually?Hate to be so negative.
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I think it is the only picture of the five that deserves the nomination. For me Children of Men was simply head and shoulders above any other movie of 2006. I'm not sure how the Academy missed the boat on this one. After that i'd put Pan's Laberynth, The Prestige and maybe Borat.
Any H-wood movie that portrays the family as a disfunctional mess gets an automatic 8.5. Having a little girl do a strip act endeared it to Academy doubters. Having a suicidal homosexual as the most stable one of the bunch makes it a sure winner.
They pull together quite magnificently to make sure she gets to the show.
Perhaps you didn't see the film but wanted to make an empty political point.
Why would you think the gay guy the most stable? Perhaps you fell asleep during the opening credits and missed the film...
The"strip" in fact isn't a strip at all... you really haven't seen this film have you?
The dance she does lampoons the two-faced nature of the uptight morality that makes up little girls to look like pouting sex kittens but denies any such thing. In doing so it also accurately targets the (im)morality that wants "beauty" contestants to wear tiny bikinis but will dismiss them for showing a nipple in a photograph.
I guess you probably fall into that ludicrous camp yourself and thus score 8.5 on the BS-monitor.
Next time try watching a film before acting up.
You really nailed the issue about the "strip dance." And I totally agree with your point about dysfunctionality. There certainly were some damaged characters but they were hardly dysfunctional as a unit.
... the point was that a family can really be greater than the sum of its parts.
Perhaps a parable for humans in this time of wars.
A certain poster here seems to think my description was pretentious.
I thought it was straightforward.
Is this the greatest film I saw in the last year?
No.
But it was a very enjoyable film. A very funny film. And a film that comes back to mind later with little details and this, perhaps, parable.
What's pretensious is your slasher attacks when someone disagrees with you. Though assigning real moral weight to a contrived story about an absurd family of self-obsessives is close.
Are you sure that's what you meant to say?
Is there something about morality that only applies to certain people?
A couple of thousand years ago a guy who thought we should all be nice to each other got nailed to some wood for using ordinary people as examples of morality, didn't he?
I guess you are above such considerations as people who are experiencing problems.
Well, I hope your shiny thoughts fulfill you as it seems you have come adrift of reality.
Bet you smoked a pipe in high school. The act was indeed a strip act, and a raunchy one. By a nine-year old . That she didn't actually expose herself is no defense. Adults who accept such erotization of children, including child actors, are sick. That includes misguided "lampooning". Its child exploitation by adults under the guise of art, and those who defend it ought to be ashamed of themselves.
cs
... then in my opinion you are blind, stupid or a paedophile.
Exactly parallel to having 20 year old girls in bikinis as decent but nudity as indecent.
Its hypercritical and repressed.
I see you found the routine "raunchy" so perhaps you have answered the question yourself.
... I was thinking of somewhere to dump your body.
Who needs this nonsense?
vicious too.
bleep
Not the child, but the moves her adult exploiters had her doing for the camera. I guess you thought her break-away costume was OK in that context too. The writer and director of LMS (and her parents) exploited the Breslin girl exactly as they were trying to ridicule in kiddie pageant nuts. And you've gone off the deep end defending it.
Please stop your attacks are too barbed and sharp witted for me...
Really I have no idea where your morality comes from but its little surprise you live in such a conservative area as SoCal.
nt
nt
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
My work in the the medical field (although financial in nature, little patient contact) largely involves pediatrics, and the sexualization of children is a real hot button issue for me-I find it very, very disturbing. I'm known to lunge for the remote every time they show Jon Benet's picture on TV.
but there are a bunch of little JBR types in the beauty pageant at the end and THAT was quite disturbing... and was meant to be. It rips the kiddie pageant world to shreds by letting it speak for itself without - much - comment.But yeah... no real reason to see that.
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
... is the mirror it holds to that ugly child "pageant" scene.
Despite being a comedy, I think the film has a strong underlying morality.
It is necessary to engage with unpleasant aspects of society in order to comment on them.
Otherwise an anti-war film could not show the horrors of war.
Laughter can be a powerful weapon.
The majority of the audience at the pageant react exactly as you have; with horror at the girl's routine, whilst their daughters look exactly as sexualised as Jon Benet.
For me the strength of it is in the fact that you watch this AND find it funny and then you THINK.
Another powerful weapon.
nt
It did have a few chuckles, mostly from Arkin's heroin & porn-addicted Grandpa. That this is Oscar material shows the H-wood crowd is more disfunctional than any movie family.
Pretty much what I would expect from your other comments.
Your political content is... appalling.
Your dress is back from the cleaners Mr. Hoover.
...the heavy-handed political correctness of Al Gore's slide show and that Crashy Brad Pitt thing, and we have three winners already!clark
...the OTHER 2006 dysfuntional family movie "Running with Scissors" was actually the better of the two movies, and Brian Cox deserved a supporting actor Oscar nomination despite mediocre critical review. Watch the movies as a pair, with RWS AFTER LMS.Every once and awhile a movie the critics love I think is only so-so and a movie the critics don't particularly like I think is wonderful
Off to see "The Dead Girl" shortly.
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Although I appreciate your comments - "Little Miss Sunshine" has been discussed & dragged through the mud every two weeks for months now. SoTry to (if you can, in a *positive way*) answer this question....
Who does deserve the Academy Award this year?
about posting MY opinion, if others had rendered theirs previously. Having said that though, I believe the best movie I saw was Painted Veil with Ed Norton. Others I quite liked were the Queen ( I think the guy who played the husband was as good as the actress playing the queen herself). Also loved Borat, but didn't really expect it to get an oscar nod. Another was Blood Diamond, which I didn't expect to like. I thought Leo really came into his own in that. Others include Departed and Letters From Iwo.
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Oh, Scorsose, Mirren, Whitacker, Hudson, and maybe Murphy too.
I'm hoping Babel doesn't win and the Departed gets the Oscar. Brokeback should have won last year.
nt
Devil made me step into it.
I am NOT a film aficionado as are most of the posters here.
My wife rented this film several months ago and, based on the title, I figured, "Oh boy, a chick flick", but was resigned to sit through it.
The start of the film was slow.
But , as it got on. I found if humorous, most of the characters were somewhat developed and I got on board their trek.
The movie had some momentum to it and the end suited the picture.
A "thought provoking " masterpiece? No
An unexpected humorous flick. Yes.
Crap ? I guess its a matter of opinion.Personally, when I read or hear of "Great" films, I am primed to look only for being impressed by the flick.
More often than not, my expectations are rarely exceeded .Other people's opinions dont always match mine and I often times am disappointed by what they think are fantastic films.Victor,
Since I am rather new at film viewing,
What are your expectations of every film?
How do you gauge whether a film has worth?
Do you factor nothing more than going on a simple ride as having worth?
Do you expect hidden , unsaid , cryptic messages from every film?
(And , as an aside, thanks for sending me those capacitors a while back, you are the best!)
Hard to explain what I look for in films, basically anything that touches me. It doesn't have to be some high art, as long as it is honest and not manipulative. And of course anything we say here is the matter of opinion, that goes without saying.Virtually nothing touched me in LMS.
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