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Who said that?The Boston Globe, on the other hand, went like this: Host DeGeneres schmoozes as audience snoozes.
...And then there was the montage about writing in the movies, and then there were the Pilobolus dancers making cool shadow shapes, and then there was the foreign film montage, and then there was the collection of Ennio Morricone music, and then there were the clips of American history seen through movies. They were minutes, many minutes, many late minutes, we will never get back.
- http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/02/26/host_degeneres_schmoozes_as_audience_snoozes/ (Open in New Window)
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..."Stan Brakhage" during the telecast. (Pedegogue, avante garde filmmaker.)Never expected to hear the inconoclast's name spoken during any Oscar telecast.
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He was my film/film history teacher at the Art Institute of Chicago. We got to see lots of works in progress.He was a great teacher. I was lucky to be there in the right place at the right time.
Alas, the techniques he used to create his "non-objective" films likely contributed to an early demise. :-(
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"I'm going to go pack for France."
LONG overdue.I snoozed through a lot. They didn't love Children of Men so to heck with the rest.
Nice to see Pan get a couple. The Three Amigos seemed happy.
I think they're finally getting embarrassed by their poor judgement in awarding oscars in this category. Scorcese finally got his ... but Kubrick, Hitchcock and Fellini never got theirs
(Though, Fellini, I believe, did finally get a lifetime achievement award --GEEESE!). Did Bergmann ever get one?But then again, the oscars have never geen about "merit." Awarding an oscar has always been about the perceived financial payoff to the Hollywood community.
This year's oscars looked smaller, less "star"-like, and more trivial than in many decades past.
Maybe the story about Nicholson saving his head for a move role was just a cover story. Maybe he was PROTESTING!
Please, oh please, bring back Billy Crystol!!!! Degeneris was the WORST host since Letterman. (Poor Dave! He though he could turn the oscars into "The Late Show." Ouch! I say Give Letterman another chance! Banish Degeneris (she has NO Hollywood credentials), and Woopie should be under a retraining order requiring her immediate arrest if she gets within 5 miles of the oscars. If you can't get Crystol, get Steve Martin -- or try someone entirely new. Conan O'Brien, anyone?
...in the Oscar race.As I've posted nearly every year, the Oscars are a great show and fun to handicap but AMPAS is basically about film business, not film art. (Undoubtedly many AMPAS voters *think* the awards are about the best films, but I can't take Dakota Fanning seriously as an aribter of cinematic excellence.)
That the Academy occassionaly rewards a few fine films and some true cinematic craftsmanship along the way doesn't really change anything. The Oscars are, after all, industry awards, decided by a wide range of commercial film people, not scholars and critics.
I simply don't look to the Academy for validation of any film. It's like a horse race, - fun to handicap, a great show, fun to be snarky about the clothes and hairdos. But there will always be far more great films that never won a Best Picture Oscar than there are great films that did. This is not criminal IMO - this is just show BIZ. (The flim montages were underwhelming this year, and as much as I love Pilobolus Dance Theater, their dancers didn't add much to the broadcast. More interesting to see that kind of thing in person.)
What is the best film of any given year anyway? Who can say what that animal is? The one thing a film needs to achieve classic film status (time) isn't available for annual awards, so you're down to opinion, influence and perceived value at a very specific moment in time. The result is that you usually get more of a snapshot of contemporary ideas about filmmaking than you do films for the ages.
Of my top 10 "best of" list (Children of Men, Pan's Labyrinth, Army of Shadows, Death of Mr. Lazarescu, United 93, The Departed, The Queen, Tristam Shandy, When The Levees Broke and Volver) an astounding TWO MOVIES (admittedly in my bottom 5) were nommed for best pic. That's a huge percentage for me. And for once, this year's 5 Oscar BP nominees didn't contain a single movie that made me cringe, a true rarity.
I was disappointed that CoM didn't win for cinematography, but the film is just as brilliant today after as it was the day it was released. The people who know and appreciate such things (such as the American Society of Cinematographers which gave CoM its highest award) don't need Oscar to validate what Emmanuel Lubezki accomplished.
I thought when I saw Spielberg, Lucas and Coppola come out to present that it had to be a Marty's year. That he won for a very fine genre film (as opposed to one of his masterpieces like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull or Goodfellas) doesn't trouble me in the least. In fact, I would have been perectly happy to have seen him win for The Aviator, which I thought was very underrated. A great director finally has an Oscar...and he apparently actually wanted to win one in competition (as opposed to Robert Altmann, who was amused by the whole process.)
I don't think Bergman ever received a Lifetime Oscar (a la Chaplin or Altmann) - he did get the Irving Thalberg Award sometime in the 70's (I think). The DGA gave him a Lifetime Acievement Award in the 80's, and Bergman won every other major award at one time or another.
I rest my case.
...The Lives of Others is off, only because you haven't seen it.clark
Indianapolis is a better film town than it used to be but can't compare to Boston, NY, LA or Chicago.I got to see a bunch of great films at the end of last year during a trip to visit friends in Chicago. We had an orgiastic cinema weekend catching the re-release of Rules Of The Game at the Music Box Friday, Volver on Saturday and then a double bill of Children of Men and Pan on New Year's eve - wotta weekend!
Since then, I've had to wait for flicks to show up in Indy...which they do, but a couple weeks after they've opened on the coasts and Chicago.
I'm looking forward to Lives Of Others. Heck, I'm even looking forward to Zodiac.
BTW, I didn't see L'Enfant either, which made numerous top tens. It was here while my Dad was dying of cancer and I simply couldn't watch it at the time. I'll be catching it on DVD soon.
Refreshingly relevant - Thanks for your well-written contribution Harmonia nt
"But then again, the oscars have never geen about "merit." Awarding an oscar has always been about the perceived financial payoff to the Hollywood community."This is just a load of crap. Nothing more.
Steve is an idiot, but can be funny, and at the minimum has some presence... something the girl completely lacked. From her first outfit (looked like she stopped by on her way to buy some sour cream), to her lame jokes that no one laughed at, it was basically a no-show. It was a rudderless ship.
...I enjoyed the show a lot, and thought it was the best Academy Awards show I could remember. I thought DeGeneres was quite entertaining, even cute. A couple of things went a little long, I suppose, but it didn't bother me at all.
And having Speilberg take and retake the picture was good.My problem with this years show was that it lacked passion.
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
She still has not recovered from being hurt.
Man, you are a jerk. You may have thought your comment was funny but it's just a ridiculous thing to say.
Man, you are an asshole...
older stars, the montage of clips, the historical episode, and other features.
I think it has become fashionable to express dislike for such gaudy spectacle.
Hell, it's not the Shakespearean Festival Awards.
The foreign film one (put together by the director of Cinema Paradiso) was very compelling and emotionally rich while the American one (put together by Michael Mann) was pretty much devoid of those things -- and that certainly didn't have to be the case.
Don't piss on my shoe and tell me it's raining.
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Termites digesting cellulose and Cow's rumens making methane dwarf the contribution of burning fossil fuels to global warming.
Must be the Ted Kennedy Disease. I think Al is now to collar size 24 shirts.
built like Tony Little?
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...having expressed those sentiments, and we haven't heard much about them for a couple years, because it undermines their latest political stance -- viz., that the government must grow so it will have the tax funds to spend on more new employees and programs; no way we're gonna kill all the cows!One more thing: Those people who call themselves "climate scientists"... you don't suppose they're lobbying for increased government and foundation support to fight "global warming" just so they can expand their labs and staff, or even just maintain their current positions, do you?
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Since you were all watching it -what did you want or hope to see ? nt
I was also working on my laptop, so it went by painlessly. But as far as its level - it was truly pathetic. The cheer girl was barely smart enough not to interfere with much, and that was her main contribution. If she stayed home things would have been "even more better".I guess I just wanted to see a few faces I like.
The most revolting moment was Al Gore on stage. But I guess we needed that reminder of what those people are.
Isn't calling something revolting - complaining?I'm still not clear on what you would have liked to see.
Like I said - I saw pretty much what I expected (not much), a few more and better boobs would be great, but hey, you can't have Scarlett in every TV frame!Ah, yes, and not seeing Leonardo would have been nice too...
On a more serious note... have you noticed that each year fewer and fewer good actors appear there? You have a bunch of the usuals, and then not much more. I think the show used to be far more perky like ten years ago.
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... at least YOU never disappoint, clark.
Must be clark's cross to carry... while everyone else can get away with posting links to articles, he gets his balls ripped off by some vigilant individuals every time.
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I thought you only gave AuPh hardon.
... blah blah blah.
Who cares what the film industry does to further promote its product?
The extraordinary amount of media attention given over to what is otherwise free advertising is ludicrous.
Do infact care enough to pay attention. Interesting.
A few years back, the Oscars started looking dangerously like the MTV Awards. I watched maybe an hour's worth spread across the night. What I saw was pretty well done. Sure, it could have been tighter. Its an award show; of course its gonna be tedious. But... They were dressed for the event and not in costume. The men even combed their hair(mostly). No red sneakers. No political tirades. They've successfully stopped the long-winded speeches. They've really improved, I think. Next year maybe they'll tone down the overdone collages.
"....(pause)...World Poverty (applause)...AIDS (applause)...the Iraq War (bigger applause)...Africa (applause)...and Saving the Planet (huge applause)."An award you may have missed.....
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"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of truth and knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." - Albert Einstein
...little in the way of surprises or even personality.It was a good year for good films, but there were really no great ones that will be remembered as classics.
The opening montage sucked and it went downhill from there.
Degeneres is too laid back.
The gowns were even boring.
Nicholson, Seinfeld and Robert Downey at least livened it up a tad.
When the dancers behind the screen were a highlight, you know it was bad.
A painfully boring telecast.
Ellen was entertaining, if in a frieindly, safe, way. Doing that without being boring must be a challenge but I thought she pulled it off. The production quality was fine with no overly produced segments that were over the top. All of the presenters were gracious and did not draw attention away from the nominees. Personal politics were kept to a minimum and were not malicious in any way.
The Pilobolus dancers were excellent. Even the musical segments were kept subtle, but the Dreamgirls numbers did go on too long. All in all it was a smooth, enjoyable viewing experience that showcased the film industry, which is exactly what it's supposed to do. I don't know what all the criticism is all about, but it's starty to feel a little stuffy in here.
I thought Seinfeld's snarky intro was a total non-sequitur and annoying as hell.This was one of the better Oscar shows for me. 'Course, I don't expect much.
The Oscar show is just too big and diverse a telecast to be wonderful for 3+ hours. If it can't be brilliant, at least it can be more or less humane...which it was with Ellen.
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Yep, said with all the sarcasm that I could muster.
"vast"? Just how do you know that?
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represent the vast majority of film goers. I am something of a snob myself, and I'm not planning to go to see Norbit, but the Norbit viewers are the vast majority. Plus, I like movies in general, as I feel you do, while many of the posters here dislike movies in general.This show held very few surprises, and the aura of self-congratulation puts me off. When I used to be able to hear Howard Stern, I loved the way he mercilessly made fun of the entertainment crowd for getting together and giving each other awards, seemingly every week.
For all that, I watched them, I mostly enjoyed them and I will always watch them.
You can STILL hear Howard, just get Sirius! He did in fact have lots of hysterical comments on the Oscars. Today alone was worth the $12.95 this month.
When Gore mentioned that the ceremony was the first "Green" Oscars, I thought it was the start of a joke. Turns out it was no joke, and it showed. There was no energy. The whole show seemed stuffy, pared-down and amateurish. Figuratively speaking, instead of limelight we got the cool dim light of energy-efficient compact fluorescent bulbs.
Does that mean the actors all smoked POT instead of snorting COKE at the after-party party!!!
But don't forget - WE create those idiots, we pay for their snorts.
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I'll send you the answer in a sealed envelop.(Heard it on radio)
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