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In Reply to: Dramatic historical fantasy + 21st century CGI = "300" posted by mr grits on March 11, 2007 at 11:15:04:
Now the gamers don't even have to use their thumbs to get their fix of eroticized ultra-violent graphic war porn.
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You haven't actually seen the movie. Right?
I saw a slew of the trailers on the net, and the 20 minute HBO featurette on its making. All told, probably 20 minutes or more of the actual film. I even "read" Miller's $30 comic book at B&N. Unless it was all false promotion, that's more than enough to form a sound opinion. One needn't eat the whole fruit to make up one's mind when one bite says its bad.IIRC, you made up your mind about this movie months ago even though hardly any of the actual film had then been released. Have you seen it?
Funny you would cite the dorks at IMDb as evidence about the movie itself. The ones making the biggest asses of themselves largly are complaining about the content of the movie without having actually seen it. There is some irony. Bottom line, comments about a film's content based on ignorance is worthless. Sorry trailers and behind the scenes does not rate as the equivelant. Sure that is enough for one to decide they don't like the style and would be better off not seeing it. It is not good enough to comment on the content. You read the graphic novel? Was that what made you think it was a "passive video game?" Is that really what you got from the book?Have I seen it? Yes three times. I also worked on it. If people see it and don't like it so be it. It's the folks who whine about it without seeing it or make idiotic comments about the film maker's intent without really knowing jack that will get any kind of reaction out of me. Oh and those that assume it's stupid because it was based on a comic book.
To say one needs to see the whole thing to comment on content is nonsense. Its not like they've kept it a secret.The trailers and HBO thing provide plenty to base an assessment upon. And the reviews tend to bear me out; 30 minutes of prelims in Sparta, then 90 minutes of repetitive slash n' spurt; apparently way too much of it in slow-mo. My vid game assessment comes from the overall video game look, the over-use of CGI, and the cartoonish buckets of spurting blood every time someone gets stuck or slashed.I was actually surprised by the crudeness of the drawings in the comic book. I have no issues with people enjoying Miller's comic book art, but for Pete's sake, how about some perspective.
I have other thematic issues with glorifying Spartan culture with little exposure of its core brutality. Its rather like portraying hard core Nazis as heroes because they may have demonstrated loyalty and courage in battle. When this kind of distortion is directed at young men, it should be worrisome, as the many posts in the IMdB "300" forum about how cool it is to be a "badass" demonstrate.
Nothing better than an uninformed opinion. not. YES YOU DO NEED TO SEE THE MOVIE TO KNOW IT'S CONTENT. The content of your post bares that fact out. Here is a classic example. You say "I have other thematic issues with glorifying Spartan culture with little exposure of its core brutality." Dude the enitre opening fifteen minutes does nothing but expose with tremendous accuracy it's core brutality. The first scene shows the grave yard for disposed babies that don't pass inspection. They go on to show an 8 year old Leonidas and another kid beating each other to near death and then it shows a forteen year old Leonidas being flogged. Dude, you clearly DONT know the content of this film. Case closed. You are dismissed.
Couple little points about the Spartan heroes; their princes (i.e., Leonidas) were exempted from the abusive elements of training; and all Spartan warriors had to stalk & kill an unsuspecting slave...not a wolf. (BTW; Xerxes had to kill a lion.) I won't even go into their bizarre social/family relations except to say after a boy reached seven, his full time home was with his barracks buddies; including after marriage.Back to the movie; evryone is entitled to an opinion, and there's plenty of material out there on "300" short of sitting thru it for 2 hours. I just don't understand the fanatical loyalty to this thing.
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