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In Reply to: I would never join a club that was presumptuous enough ... posted by Jimmy NYC on March 14, 2007 at 23:06:34:
>> He shows us America, with all it's ignorance and prejudice <<
>> The assumption that 90% of the public are morons is sad statement <<Well, which is it? You have no problem with the idea that America full of ignorance and prejudice when you watch Borat, but when I come right out and make that point myself, you get on my case for it. You can't have it both ways. And as I alluded to earlier, this is bigger than America. The movie is distributed worldwide to countries where Christians and Jews are hated, and where racism and lack of education is worse than it is here. Look how blacks are portrayed, too. The only blacks shown in the movie are a bunch of gangsta types who teach borat to wear his pants pulled down to his knees. Great. Just what the African American community needed.
Look, this isn't about you and me. It's about whether film makers have any responsibility. I say yes, you seem to say no. Faranheit 9/11 was distributed in the middle east by Hezbollah as a terrorist recruitment tool. That's what happens when a film is made so irresponsibly that it takes little pieces of facts, ignores big pieces, and puts it all together in a way that is very harmful and one-sided and has all the subtlety of a sledgehammer.
I respect Larry Charles. I love his work on Seinfeld, Curb Your Enthusiasm and even Entourage. He's obviously immensely talented. I don't have much respect for SBCohen, but I can certainly understand why you appreciate him and think of his work as artistry. I don't, but again, my overarching point has nothing to do with you or me.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
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C'mon J.I. - I think there is a big difference between saying 90% of the movie going public are morons and acknowledging prejudice in the USA.All that said - I'm going to run off ! Before I do I wanted to thank you for your ideas. I appreciated your views and your writing style.
All the best - "Jimmy NYC"
Ok, then what percentage of the public are morons? Your man borat seemed to find many of them without much trouble and I know you identify many of your fellow Americans as prejudiced dolts. So the disagreement between us is what--a matter of degrees, a few percentage points? Bottom line: when you see Borat in a theater and hear the bellows and laughter arround you, there's no way to be sure what the audience has really connected with.
-------------"I have found that if you love life, life will love you back." -Arthur Rubinstein (1887-1982)
I think I said something along these lines up above.But you said it first.
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