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It was sixty years ago today...

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...that Citizen Kane premiered in New York, ushering in the Era of the Tracking Shot.
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Re: It was sixty years ago today... RGA 00:17:58 05/03/01 (1)
Either way it is the most grossly overrated film ever made...
- C'mon, don't leave us hanging! n/t clarkjohnsen 10:36:58 05/05/01 (0)
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Sorry Clark, but Welles didn't invent the tracking shot Rob Doorack 10:42:18 05/02/01 (6)
Tracking shots had been used in movies back to the silent era. For that matter, many of the innovations claimed for "Citizen Kane" had already been used in other movies.
- Citizen Kane's Borrowings: techniques attributed to
- Re: Sorry Clark, but Welles didn't invent the tracking shot RGA 23:13:59 05/07/01 (2)
  Citizen Kane is a great film visually, whether or not it was first. However, I cannot understand critics who herald it as the best motion picture ever made. For even if you argued that the visuals are better than any other film in history....and 2001: A Space Odyssy, A Clockwork Orange, Schindler's List are just 3 that I can think off the top of my head that are at the very least as good(Yes Yes they probably stole the technique from Kane...but being first doesn't mean best). Citizen Kane makes no Emotional impact...Wow Can anyone really feel sorry for Kane(or should I say William Randolph Hurst). The man was a user and fed his own ego. Yes Yes the American dream social commentary...give me a character we can sympathise with. Geez come to think of it A Clockwork Orange has a message as well...and it worked far better...gotta love those little Droogies. Or Schindler's for the emotional weight...and the performancces and visuals.
  It takes more than visuals and that is all Kane has going for it.
  - Re: Sorry Clark, but Welles didn't invent the tracking shot Jon 01:03:32 05/11/01 (1)
    Citizen Kane makes no Emotional impact? A man powerful and rich enough that he can own anything but he realizes, on his "deathbed" that sledding on a snow day as a child is what he longs for. What he can't have.
    Maybe you have to be older to experience the emotional impact. Sure, the movie slows, somewhat after the first reel but how could you be bored watching this movie? Welles? Cotton? GREAT to look at.
    What more could you want?
    - Re: Sorry Clark, but Welles didn't invent the tracking shot RGA 03:01:44 05/13/01 (0)
      Sorry, Lester Burnam in American Beauty gave it up for what he longed for and the film resonated with me more. I am 27...and maybe you are correct about the ERA being different from mine. I gave the film 31/2 out of 4. I liked it a lot and was not bored... I just don't think it deserves the accolades. That's OK...Casablanca is a suped up Propaganda film and neither is in the league of Schindler's List.
- Oh, indeed! But Edison didn't invent the lightbulb either... clarkjohnsen 10:49:24 05/02/01 (2)
  ...and yet... What Welles did, was to do it stupendously longer and over a greater range than anyone else before, which caused all the talk!
  clark
  - And then...years later...Orson did it again! Harmonia 23:50:11 05/02/01 (1)
    ...Welles did it stupendously longer yet, In Touch Of Evil. (See Robert Altman's amusing reference to TOE at beginning of The Player.)
    - Quite right! clarkjohnsen 10:35:25 05/05/01 (0)
      What I like about tracking shots is not so much photographic, as that they bring a touch of live thratre into a heavily-edited medium.
      clark

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