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In Reply to: Re: You're missing my point Dmitry. posted by Dmitry on May 21, 2001 at 17:03:34:
***Elder Victor isn't discovering any Americas when he talks about decline of Hollywood films after the war. I think that the best American films were made after WWII.Isn't there a contradiction between your two sentences?
But anyway, I love good films no matter where they come from. So help me with the list of the best American films made after the WWII - no teasing here.
And as far as having world movies come out of some homogeneous blob of matter, that is simply not true. It would not be possible for something like the "Mozart Brothers" or "Life as a Fatal STD" to be made here, not anymore than the Kurosawa's "Dreams" to be made in Germany.
So you line about French Cinema vs. Mongolian Cinema (shivers and cold down the spine....... ) may be funny but it is dead wrong. It shall remain wrong for the next few hundred years, I am afraid.
But returning to the serious subject, let's build a good American film list.
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***Elder Victor isn't discovering any Americas when he talks about decline of Hollywood films after the war. I think that the best American films were made after WWII.
Isn't there a contradiction between your two sentences?
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Arrgh. Come on,Victor, drop the semantics:)))You know perfectly well what I was talking about.
What I meant to say was that indeed, Hollywood took some turns after the WWII, some of them right, some of them u-turns and some of them bad.
Now, my favorite post-WWII American films would be(before 1980s)
A Gentlemen's Agreement
North by Northwest
Chinatown
A Hatful Of Rain
The Hustler
The French Connection
Carmen Jones
The Godfather
The Young Lions
Some like it hot
Easy Rider
Pinky
Spartacus
One flew over the cuckoo's nest
The Taxi Driver
Dr.Strangelove
Three days of the Condor
The Graduate
Raging Bull
On The Waterfront
The Big Heat
Apocalypse Now
Midnight express
Young Frankenstein
Jaws
All The King's Men
Close encounters of the third kind
All That Jazz
Human desire
To kill the mockingbird
and that film with Charleton Heston where he plays a Mexican.These are just the ones that came to my mind while I was typing. I'm sure there are more.
All the other stuff about my being wrong for the next 100 years - I wish you all the health in the world, o sagacious Solomon. :)
...ever so gently slide the "Paths of Glory" in place of Spartacus?Anyway, intersting. I am actually scanning it for holes I need to plug im my education.
On the ones I know I agree with you about 60% - I would never consider the "Condor" anything but another piece of kaka from Redford-the-kaka-man.
And I am eternally grateful to you that there was no Stalag 17 on your list...
I haven't seen the Paths of Glory...but I like Spartacus.
Wow, Victor, don't get too worked up about the caca-man. I liked the Condor, saw it perhaps 3 times since I saw it first when I was about 12 or 13, still like it.
He is an OK guy, Redford. Why dislike him so much? It's the horse film, isn't it? Or his political affiliations maybe? There's got to be something beside the acting...
Stalag 17:))))Time to go home now.
You are lucky man, Dmitry, watching Paths of Glory for the first time - you will not forget it. Simply put - one of five best films ever made, and you know - I don't drop that sort of claims idly.Redford - Mr. Hollywood. A facade man, a Potemkin village, with no substance. I don't think is was the horse movie, I think my dislike of him started with the first his film that I saw - the Bruebaker. That was right as I came here, and I thought highly of American films. Bruebaker struck me as something utterly fake, although it toom me several years to understand what it was.
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