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In the last year that I've had the Independant Film Channel, I find myself pulled more and more toward the substance of indie films over Hollywood fluff.My wife, however, is not so eager to follow. For every ten movies I watch, she maybe watches....one. When I convinced her to sit down and watch the first one with me, it was Cronenberg's "Crash". I had not seen it, yet, nor was I aware of how shocking it would be to my wife. She left the room half way through the movie mumbling something about me being a sicko for watching it. I falsely believed the movie would prove to her the originality and intellect behind good indie films.
So I thought I'd lighten things up a bit and have her watch "Spanking the Monkey". Hey, with a title like that, I couldn't go wrong, right?
I was wrong.
Everything was fine until the scene where he sleeps with his mother. Again, I was depraved and a sicko. Sheesh!
Finally, I scored with a wonderful movie featuring one of my wife's favorite actors, Edward Furlong, and one of mine, Tim Roth. The movie was Little Odessa, which now ranks up there with some of the best I've seen, including mainstream. The movie really moved my wife my wife.
She's a little more open to watching more indie films now, but she still thinks I'm depraved. ;-)
So, before I go and drive the stake through the heart that is my marriage ;-) I come to you for help on more indie movie titles that we might rent or catch that will convince my wife that the indie scene is not as bad as it seems. I'm looking for movies along the quality of Little Odessa.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
AS
Follow Ups:
Not to forget - indie films do not necessarily have to be THAT difficult to watch for ordinary people ;-) You should check out "Chutney Popcorn" by Nisha Ganatra if you get the chance - it's a wonderful romantic comedy, yet without the weight of the genre's clichés to it. Or how about Hal Hartley's films? Start out with something like "Trust" or "Simple Men".Best,
Thom P
Stars Steve Buscemi.
I've noticed over the last few years that the same pool of actors seem to show up in indie films. Some of these are crossover actors like Tim Roth, and others like Lili Taylor and Crash's Deborah Unger seem to either prefer indies or can't cut a break (yes, I know Taylor was in The Haunting, but I wouldn't call that a break based on the movie's performance).Does anyone have any insight to this? Is it because some actors prefer only indie films, or are they just that bad that they can't cut it in "Hollywood".
Just wonderin'
AS
The Yards. (By the way, saw Rob Roy on the TV the other night and was knocked out by Tim Roth's role as a machiavellic scottish aristocrat. He's such a good actor who's picked many varied roles. Any other favorite Roth roles?)
"Four Rooms" is an excellent Tim Roth flick. It's 4 short stories written and directed by four indi folks (including Quentin T.)that all take place in a L.A. hotel on New Years Eve. Roth plays a bellhop at the hotel and is the thread that ties the 4 stories together. The cast features everyone from Madonna to Bruce Willis. The concept is pretty cool and well exectuted. Not to mention it's kinda off-color and made me laugh consistently.Also check out a movie Roth did with Tu Pac Shakur (sp?). The name of the flick escapes me. Tim and Tu Pak play a couple of junkies who decide to kick the habit. The bulk of the film documents the weird, violent, humorous, ironic stuff the pair goes through while trying to enroll in a government meth program. Roth is great and I was truly amazed that Shakur's performance is pretty damn good too.
Aurelio, you probobly shouldn't watch either of these with your wife!
Thanks for the suggestion on The Yards. What's it about?Another indie film I caught a while back starred Roth. He played an ex-convict who had taken the rap for his older, selfish brother. Upon getting out, he moves in with his brother and wife (can't remember her name, but another frequent indie film start who's abolutely gorgeous). Needless to say, things spiral downward from there.
Can't remember name of the movie, but it was pretty good.
I also loved Roth's bit in Pulp Fiction during the stare down/conversation with Samuel L. Jackson. Wonderful!
Never saw Reservoir Dogs or The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover but would like to someday!
Any other recs?
AS
PS. Always wanted to see Rob Roy...now even more imperative!
Problem with that film is that Albertha Watson is just too beautiful for that role. No, strike that, she is simply gorgeous, sort of in the best tradition of young Jacqueline Bisset.That makes for a very interesting split. I would dare say that all males watch her in that film and dream of having an afair with her, disregarding the fact that she is boy's mother. They feel the boy is just plain lucky and don't get his conflict...
Women on the other hand will naturally see it for what it is, and the disgusting nature of the relationship will be all too painfully obvious to them.
You're right, Victor. I see the "Bissett" quality to her! Indeed she is stunning and, IMO, was perfect in the role as Jeremy Davies' mother. Although she's beautiful, I think the movie did a good job of capturing the "motherly" side of her along with that bit of "sexiness" to her. I'm sure glad they didn't pick someone less attractive ;-)When IFC showed StM, they gave some trivia facts during commercial breaks. I remember reading that director Russell went through an ungodly number of women who turned down the role (something like 200 or so) before Watson accepted. Phew! Thank you, Alberta! They also mentioned that Russell spent 7 years in therapy as a young man. Didn't go into detail, but one has to wonder why?
Nevertheless, a great movie that does a great job of showing the emotional struggles that young men go through (incest bit aside of course).
Especially, awkward, shy young men (not that I was one ;-)
AS
One of the all-time most remarkable films. Tons of fun on a shoe-string budget.And... I really don't know why, the the "Montenegro" is forever linked to it in my mind. Simply a tremendous movie, an absolute delight. That one you should be able to buy at your Best Buy on DVD. And man, what a team!
And... any of Dusan Makavejev's films.
I don't know what the indie title means anymore, but if you are looking for wonderful obscure films, then "The Raggedy Rawney" must be on your list, together with such marvels as "The CLosely Watched Trains", and man, soooo many others.... it is incredible how many trully good films are out there, you just start digging and there is no end...
I remember this little gem of a movie! First saw it when I was 17ish and couldn't appreciate it (except for Mary Woronov's delectable body ;-)Saw it again years later and absolutely loved it! Sad to hear of Bartel's death last year. I enjoyed his work.
Woronov filled that 17 year old with many nights of wonderful dreams ;-) Wonder what she's up to, now?
I will have to rent this...as I don't think my wife has seen it.
Thanks for the reminder!
AS
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"Drowning By Numbers" is another film by the same guy. It's equally weird. The story is about three women who marry, then decide to murder their husbands by drowning them creatively. It's rather artsy and odd. I dug it.
I could swear someone mentioned the Cook... need to pay more attention.
***"Drowning By Numbers" is another film by the same guy.Indeed. And the the thickest, the most dense images ever (forget the "Cook...") see his "Prospero's Books" - if you can sit through it, that is...
you should like La Citée des Enfants Perdus (City of lost children or something like this). It is from the same guy who made Delicatessen with the same weird ambiance to it.
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City of Lost Children is an excellent film- elements of Delicatessen but with greater sophistication (and budget)-with the odd looking Dominic Pinon (the hitman from Diva)and Ron Perlman who has great presence.Full of strange characters and a bizarre plot, wonderful special effects and camera work-
Highly recommended.
Don't want to drive that stake completely through the heart. ;-)Using Eating Raoul (which is fine) as a reference, are Delicatessen and La Citee... not for the sqeamish?
AS
And have you seen "A Matter of Taste"? Was it up to your taste?
No... Is the title a translation from a french movie?
Them French...
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Good work by Bernard Giraudeau, whom we remember from "Passione d'amore", a bizarre story with good performances.
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