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Elem Klimov's film "Come and See" .. Have you seen it?

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John_N

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I just watched a friend's old vhs copy of this film. It is an excellent film, but currently not available.
I e-mailed Kino and they are (re-)releasing the film in both vhs and dvd formats on October 23rd, 2001. Fantastic!!
John_N

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I recommended it to Victor, now he hates me. (nt) john dem 15:18:33 06/21/01 (12)
- It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Victor Khomenko 19:25:11 06/21/01 (11)
  ...and I am glad you did.
  But time is good at sorting things. Truly great things linger in your memory longer. Come and See didn't occupy my mind long at all.
  It IS intriguing in some parts, but overall I think it is more a shocker than a true masterpiece.
  I am afraid its effect is going to be largely lost in both cases: the US viewer will miss most of it, as things foreign and far away, and for an experienced Russian one, brought up on some trully masterful war films, it is not going to be strong enough or polished enough perhaps.
  - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. john dem 03:49:23 06/22/01 (0)
    I was only joking Victor-
    Maybe I should add HIC!- BURP! etc like you- know- who !
    Anyway- for us non-Russians it is a very powerful film. I'm still searching for The Cranes are Flying.
    Regards,
    john
  - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. John_N 20:30:24 06/21/01 (9)
    Victor, thanks for the reply and your opinion on the film.
    I would agree that I probably have limited exposure to films of this type/subject and would appreciate it if you could list some of the others that you feel better handle the subject mater or its presentation.
    Your suggestions may not be easily available here but I would most definitely enjoy the search.
    Thanks again.
    Regards,
    John_N
    - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Victor Khomenko 08:19:16 06/22/01 (0)
      www.bestvideo.com has Ballad of a Soldier and Ivan's Childhood.
    - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Dmitry 00:45:28 06/22/01 (6)
      The general war theme-
      Trial on the Road
      The Dawns Here Are Quiet
      The theme of children scarred by war-
      The Orphans(one of my all-time favorites)
      Best of luck finding these. I have no idea where non-Russian speaking film buffs locate these films, but evidently they are able to.
      PS-Never mind what "an experienced Russian" will think of Idi i Smotri.:)) It is a good film by any standards.
      - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Victor Khomenko 08:15:46 06/22/01 (5)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. posted by Dmitry on June 22, 2001 at 00:45:28:
        
        ***Trial on the Road
        Could not find any traces of it. Is it by any chance Bitva v puti?
        Also - is that Siroty or Sirota? Who made it and when?
        
        Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Dmitry 09:28:54 06/22/01 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. posted by Victor Khomenko on June 22, 2001 at 08:15:46:
        
        Proverka na dorogah
        Podranki
        
        Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Victor Khomenko 09:48:31 06/22/01 (3)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. posted by Dmitry on June 22, 2001 at 09:28:54:
        
        Will look. Unfortunately Gubenko is modern age party apparatchik, saw him in Duma... disgusting... I think I saw the Podranki, but not sure.
        
        Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Dmitry 11:43:52 06/22/01 (2)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. posted by Victor Khomenko on June 22, 2001 at 09:48:31:
        
        Like, you know, nobody is perfect. Are you?:)
        It is a film, not Gubenko's current political platform you will watch.
        How about Takrovksy liked to fuck 13 y.o. boys. Eisenstein too. Got any other heroes?:)
        
        Now, now... Victor Khomenko 12:12:45 06/22/01 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. posted by Dmitry on June 22, 2001 at 11:43:52:
        
        Like yes, I khow. No need to push things too far, though.
        Director's personal views and experiences may play larger or smaller role in his work, be more or less intrusive depending upon the type of film he does. Gubenko's political views would matter little if he was making a love story. But a story about war is likely to tread on political ground, and there I would approach that with caution.
        Kind of like me, for instance, as you put it, fucking 13 y.o. boys would probably mean little for my product designs, but my life spent playing and listening to rock music probably would.
        Or take YOUR line of work. Your political views would not mean much to your average patient, but your having strong sadistic inclinations... ouch... doc... easy with that needle...
        When Yves Montand made movies with political theme - his views did enter the picture (pun intended)
        
        Re: Now, now... Dmitry 12:37:37 06/22/01 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Now, now... posted by Victor Khomenko on June 22, 2001 at 12:12:45:
        
        How about, like, you know, you watch The Orphans first, before going into yet another diatribe about post-Soviet politics, and then tell me if Gubenko's views of year 2001(whatever they may be)are profusely or covertly expressed in his film of 1977 or 79. Like you know what party Tarkovsky would belong to if he were still alive?
        So director's sexuality has little to do with the films he/she makes, yet his political affiliation makes the cake? I say boo-hoo and lol(I'm almost positive you will say-"Hold on, I never said that! In fact...").:)
    - Re: It is not all that bad... but cought in between. Victor Khomenko 22:24:57 06/21/01 (0)
      John, I think you should be able to get "The Cranes are Flying", "Ballad of a Soldier" and "Childhood of Ivan". But I have been largely detached from Russian films lately, so perhaps Dmitry could suggest more - as I would have to go too deep into my memory.
Re: Elem Klimov's film "Come and See" .. Have you seen it? Dmitry 10:38:53 06/21/01 (2)
Saw it in 1986 0r 87 at the movies, when it first came out.
Glad you liked it!
Don't know where you are, but there's a Russian WWII film retrospective currently running in NY.
- Re: Elem Klimov's film "Come and See" .. Have you seen it? John_N 20:19:22 06/21/01 (1)
  Dmitry, thanks for the information about the retrospective, but I am in Toronto Canada.
  Regards,
  John_N
  - Thanks, guys John_N 16:03:25 06/22/01 (0)
    Thanks, guys.
    I do have Ivan's Childhood on vhs, released under the alternate title "My Name Is Ivan."
    I understand Criterion is working on a dvd release of the film as well.
    I have not seen anything on the other films mentioned but will try to track them down.
    Thanks, again.
    John_N

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