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In Reply to: Makes one think twice about looking for film commentary via an Asylum forum... lord posted by mobile homeless on July 31, 2001 at 08:41:46:
Not that I am surprised.As I said, I don't go to movies with dinosaurs in them, in the hopes that the beasties might play chess, dress up in Victorian costume, recite Keats, float about in the tree tops and karate chop each other, ask love advice of Oprah and Dr. Phil, or the like.
Perhaps, in questioning my intelligence, and in somehow implying that your thoughts are fact, and mine are simply a nothing opinion...you should allow yourself to mellow out a little. You could learn to be more open minded and tolerant of the views of others. I know that you will not...I'm not that stupid...I'm just pointing out the obvious.
And my knowledge of audio would supercede yours from a coma...so, yes indeed, I belong here. Wheras your pious bogotry and personal attacks do not. It's too bad that no one has taught you manners...
Follow Ups:
First of all, your assumptions are just about as off as they can be, and you are, in fact, guilty of exactly the same tripe you supposedly criticize. Reread your post and the attitude which to me seemed highly absurd, that no good movies had really been made since Jurassic Park, which to me, was NOT an excellent film, even within the Action-Adventure genre. You assumption that most critics "get it wrong" and have nothing worthwhile to say was worthy of a pithy retort, a retort that obviouosly struck some nerve, even though I read your post as rather assumptious, and nervy in and of itself.Contrary to your tile of post, and the misguided post of Dan G in relation to me, I actually have a fine understanding of the action-adventure genre and have loved many of that vein. Interestingly enough, I just rented Deliverance to show to my wife, who had never seen the movie. Now I admit, this is not the same catagory of action-adventure as Jurassic Park, indeed, it is heads and shoulders better in all ways, as it shows action, adventure, intrigue, human nature, horror, and yet does so without seeming trite and contrived, resorting to simple heros and villians with a wrapped up ending guaranteed to produce sequel after sequel.
Tolerent of others? I was simply expressing MY opinion and reactions to your statements concerning movies and the fact that not a decent movie (better than Jurassic Park) has been made since 93. Believe me, you made some pretty blanket statements, almost begging for a rebuttal given the nature of them. How anyone can say that Jurassic Park should rate as one of the top five films of all time is STILL a mystery to me, especially given the many other movies, even of that genre, that were far better and more developed. Yes, the special effects were good, but remove them and you have some pale leftovers. Granted, it would not be the same movie without them, but I am just pointing out the fact of how strong it really relies on this. Face it, the story was extremely weak.
I am still trying to figure out your line about the knowledge of audio. Frankly, it makes little sense even when read several times. Then again, the words "pious bigotry" derived from the content of that post of mine is a bit of a stretch as well.
What are some other action-adventure movies that I think ARE excellent? Well, stretching your interpretation of Action-Adventure, I think French Connection, Ronan, Jaws, The Great Escape, Midnight Express, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Goodfellas, Marathon Man,and even Die Hard.... all stand heads over Jurassic Park. That being said, I will say that I did find Jurassic Park at least entertaining..and a FUN SUMMER MOVIE... My contention with you was the absolute dismissal of so many movies and the rating of Jurassic Park in the Top Five of all time.
I still, despite your post, wholeheartedly disagree. Then again, it IS all opinion. Of course, some opinions can be more informed than others. And ironically enough, it is YOU that seem to be closed off to a variety of movies that you deem useless. See your quote and who is the real one that is exhibiting narrow minded pretense:
"...I like movies that avoid pretentious pomposity and excessive cuteness-for-the-sake-of-jaded-verbal-blather-for-blather's-sake...in other words, critics love these types of films, and I detest them...right along with the critics themselves. They all have the easiest jobs in the world, and yet are quite smug and unapologetic about their ill-gotten perks...and about being wrong all the time)."How do you interpret this quote as being open minded. Verbal blather? Is this what someone else might call DIALOG , one of the key factors in good drama, whether it be action, suspense, or drama? You have written off quite a few films my friend; indeed, you did not even mention the two I wrote about in my post; your post simply attacked me personally and provided no argument to support your statements.
kh
Look, if you think "Deliverance" is a better movie than Jurassic, then you're confirming what I suspected about your "lifechoice", shall we call it?...from the first sentence I read from you. It explains a lot.I don't need to waste my time justifying my words, which apparently affected you about as deeply as if YOU were the guy who had to squeel in "Deliverance", to you...because they speak for themselves.
We all like different movies, and if Jurassic is my favorite kind, then I restate my point: There's not been one since the first one that begins to approach it. Nothing YOU have said, or will say, convinces me otherwise, either.
I love the Die Hard movies, and feel the third in its series is quite good (almost as good as the first), but it does not approach the same realm as the first Jurassic.
I could have wasted several minutes and dug intellectually deeper (not that you could tell), but you are never going to see my point of view anyway, and that is fact...wheras I do see yours somewhat, and don't like it much.
Perhaps you earned a living writing for a small newspaper doing movie reviews at one time, and what I said struck a nerve? If that is the case, then get over it. Sucks to be you...
...indeed
kh
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