Films/DVD Asylum

Posted by mobile homeless (i) on July 31, 2001 at 19:53:32

In Reply to: Kelly, you completely do not understand the action-adventure genre posted by the-real-CarlEber on July 31, 2001 at 13:34:40:

First of all, your assumptions are just about as off as they can be, and you are, in fact, guilty of exactly the same tripe you supposedly criticize. Reread your post and the attitude which to me seemed highly absurd, that no good movies had really been made since Jurassic Park, which to me, was NOT an excellent film, even within the Action-Adventure genre. You assumption that most critics "get it wrong" and have nothing worthwhile to say was worthy of a pithy retort, a retort that obviouosly struck some nerve, even though I read your post as rather assumptious, and nervy in and of itself. Contrary to your tile of post, and the misguided post of Dan G in relation to me, I actually have a fine understanding of the action-adventure genre and have loved many of that vein. Interestingly enough, I just rented Deliverance to show to my wife, who had never seen the movie. Now I admit, this is not the same catagory of action-adventure as Jurassic Park, indeed, it is heads and shoulders better in all ways, as it shows action, adventure, intrigue, human nature, horror, and yet does so without seeming trite and contrived, resorting to simple heros and villians with a wrapped up ending guaranteed to produce sequel after sequel. Tolerent of others? I was simply expressing MY opinion and reactions to your statements concerning movies and the fact that not a decent movie (better than Jurassic Park) has been made since 93. Believe me, you made some pretty blanket statements, almost begging for a rebuttal given the nature of them. How anyone can say that Jurassic Park should rate as one of the top five films of all time is STILL a mystery to me, especially given the many other movies, even of that genre, that were far better and more developed. Yes, the special effects were good, but remove them and you have some pale leftovers. Granted, it would not be the same movie without them, but I am just pointing out the fact of how strong it really relies on this. Face it, the story was extremely weak. I am still trying to figure out your line about the knowledge of audio. Frankly, it makes little sense even when read several times. Then again, the words "pious bigotry" derived from the content of that post of mine is a bit of a stretch as well. What are some other action-adventure movies that I think ARE excellent? Well, stretching your interpretation of Action-Adventure, I think French Connection, Ronan, Jaws, The Great Escape, Midnight Express, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The Bridge on the River Kwai, Goodfellas, Marathon Man,and even Die Hard....all stand heads over Jurassic Park. That being said, I will say that I did find Jurassic Park at least entertaining..and a FUN SUMMER MOVIE... My contention with you was the absolute dismissal of so many movies and the rating of Jurassic Park in the Top Five of all time. I still, despite your post, wholeheartedly disagree. Then again, it IS all opinion. Of course, some opinions can be more informed than others. And ironically enough, it is YOU that seem to be closed off to a variety of movies that you deem useless. See your quote and who is the real one that is exhibiting narrow minded pretense: "...I like movies that avoid pretentious pomposity and excessive cuteness-for-the-sake-of-jaded-verbal-blather-for-blather's-sake...in other words, critics love these types of films, and I detest them...right along with the critics themselves. They all have the easiest jobs in the world, and yet are quite smug and unapologetic about their ill-gotten perks...and about being wrong all the time)." How do you interpret this quote as being open minded. Verbal blather? Is this what someone else might call DIALOG, one of the key factors in good drama, whether it be action, suspense, or drama? You have written off quite a few films my friend; indeed, you did not even mention the two I wrote about in my post; your post simply attacked me personally and provided no argument to support your statements. kh