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In Reply to: Re: "Moulin Rouge".... did you like this one? posted by blake on December 24, 2001 at 12:40:17:
***...but Dancer in the Dark is the real thing...I can't agree with that. I thought it was about as real as the Aliens. Some of the acting was good, but the rest I could perfectly do without.
Some directors try to achieve results by whispering gently, by understating the obvious and the difficult equally, and by inviting you to use your imagination. The "Dancer" SHOUTS right into your ear and points search light into your eyes, all while twisting your arm and stomping on your foot.
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I'm not sure that either film can make any great claim to being "subtle", and not sure that all interesting film has to "invite you to use your imagination". Sometimes it's good to be clubbed or sledgehammered; perhaps that's what the director intended, I don't know. It also, in my opinion, doesn't have to always be "real" to be interesting or rewarding. Neither one of these films is particularly "real", but that doesn't mean they're not worth watching. My post was really to compare the two films, which in many ways are strikingly similar with respect to subject matter. While Moulin Rouge was an ok and somewhat entertaining watch, I just felt that "Dancer" was a more interesting film, perhaps not without flaws, but with a bit more to say.
As I believe this may define the 'sledgehammer' approach to cinema, (well, that and maybe 'Tetsuo' as well). A brilliant film on many accounts, but not one I feel compelled to view again. I personally did prefer the more obtuse & abstract edge of 'Pi'.As far as 'Dancer..." and "Moulin Rouge" are concerned, I actually quite liked them both. Considered I was practically dragged to "Moulin Rouge" and walked out with a nice warm glow sitting in the back of my head, this is saying something. The evocative yet bleak ambience of "Dancer..." is certainly miles removed from the hyper-kinetic visuals of "Moulin Rouge', but there is a common thread between the two.
Bryan K.,
Music Lover & President-elect of C.C.A.C. (Concerned Citizens Against Cilantro)
Saw "Requiem" when it first came out on DVD-definitely the sledgehammer approach-haven't seen Pi or Tetsuo but will watch for them.
Yes, I think I understand what you are saying, and franky Moulin Rouge is not great reference to exceed.I simply expected more of the Dancer and while I was drawn into some scenes, I felt cheated at the end.
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