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(1)Westfront-1918&1930;
(2)J'Accuse-1919&1937;
(3)All Quiet on the Western Front-1930&1979;
(4)La Grande Illusion-1936;
(5)Paths of Glory-1957;
(6)Dr.Strangelove-1963;
(7)The Victors-1963;
(8)King and Country-1964;
(9)The War Game-1965;
(10)M*A*S*H--1969.
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"Le Roi du Coeurs" (King of Hearts)Is this still playing in that theater in Boston? To me, this is the best anti-war movie.
I would contribute CATCH 22. -Sam
The Beast 1988Soviet tank crew lost in Afghanistan
I thought the Beast was an entertaining but basically a weak film.
About as good a list as I've ever seen. I've seen all the movies on your list and they are all excellent.What about APOCALYPSE NOW and PLATOON? Two war movies that had an exceptionally strong anti-war message. Also GOING HOME, HAMBURGER HILL, THE RED BADGE OF COURAGE. All films that show the stupidity of war and its consequences. How about FAIL SAFE, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, SCHINDLER'S LIST, and SHOA? THE EXECUTION OF PVT. SLOVIK? STALAG 17? What about BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES?
Good list. I'll add Dalton Trumbo's 1970 film "Johnny Got His Gun". Metallica relied heavily on footage from it for their video "One". The book of the same name also makes for a very disturbing read. For some reason the WW1 movies carry the strongest message. The impact of the 1937 "J'Accuse" has not faded and still chills me.
As much as I DESPISE ( <-bold, italics, flashing neon) Tom Cruise, I have to say, I enjoyed "Born on the Fourth of July" (Tom's heavy make-up helped me endure him thru the film).I'm sure there are better, but I just haven't seen them.
AS
(nt)
one is a must,too, it is NUITS et Brouillard- Fabulous ! if one can say about this subject...
It is about seventy-fifth time that we are going through the "best", or whatever, war movies, and you still don't have my favorite - the "Forbidden Games". Five lashes with old 70mm film to you for that.You also still have not included any of the finest Russian or Polish or German films that really should kick some of your choices off the list pronto. Things like "The Cranes are Flying" or Wajda's "Kanal" are among the finest films ever made - period.
And why no U-571? How dare you!
nt
I thought all films I mentioned were anti-war movies... silly me perhaps.Do you think The Cranes are Flying glorifies the war? The Forbidden Games?
What would you put in that War-Film category? Just curious. I can't think of a film that would make me want to go out and enjoy some war...
OK, so perhaps some of Leni Riefenstahl's work could be considered IT. Some Stalin propaganda kaka.
What else?
I wasn't intending to be critical of your mentioned films. I actually have seen neither "Cranes" nor "Forbidden Games" so I wouldn't know if they were shoot em up action films or anti-war pieces
I was only refering to this line in your post> > > It is about seventy-fifth time that we are going through the "best", or whatever, war movies, and you still don't have my favorite - the "Forbidden Games". Five lashes with old 70mm film to you for that. < < < <
You said "war fims" the poster had said best "anti war" films
No offense intended
Regards
Steve
***No offense intendedNone taken. I actually never separated the films into these two groups: War - Anti-War.
To me given the horrible nature of any war, there is only one way to portray it. So I am not ready to adapt that terminology. I am not considering the Nazi and Soviet propaganda even worth mentioning, even though some of it was masterfully done by true geniuses.
> > I am not considering the Nazi and Soviet propaganda even worth mentioning, even though some of it was masterfully done by true geniuses.Yeah, we'd better watch American propaganda, such as U-571; Enemy at the Gates ( although French director and pro-Russian - allied, that is) and name your favourite revisionist stories.
Not to mention the peasants living in Holland portrayed in 'A Bridge Too Far'.
I'm waiting for a new war- or antiwar-movie starring Europeans and Russians as Nazis. What would we do without Hollywood.
Still have to see 'Enigma'.
Rob
Well, I told you before that I don't watch - as a hard rule - American films. Some of them I later catch on free cable channels, but even then it took me I believe three viewings to finish the Private Ryan - as I had to use my puke bucket too many times. And don't even mention the American Beauty.But you are still wrong about them. They in no way compare to what I had in mind when I mentioned Leni Riefenstahl. American war movies are often just stupid compared to the best ones from the rest of the world, but they are not evil.
Hollywood is trully the shame of America. It gets particularly disgusting as you look at how many good films other countries have produced in the past, say, 20 years. A hundred at least. And America? Three? Four? Of which 80% were Woody Allen films.
Not so negative, Vitjok. Independant moviemakers also live in the US, but it's a shame they don't get decent distribution. One of the best movies I've seen in years was 'Happiness' by Todd Solontz.Rob
***Not so negative, Vitjok.Easy for you to say - you don't live in the middle of it.
I quite agree on the indies, and thank God we still have some around.
But Hollywood must go, man... we would be better off having cucumber fields there.
Notable do not mean the best but something worth of mention...and this list,certainly is...worth...
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