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In Reply to: Hmmm... plus some REAL questions posted by Victor Khomenko on January 04, 2002 at 11:35:43:
I wasn't intending to be critical of your mentioned films. I actually have seen neither "Cranes" nor "Forbidden Games" so I wouldn't know if they were shoot em up action films or anti-war pieces
I was only refering to this line in your post>>>It is about seventy-fifth time that we are going through the "best", or whatever, war movies, and you still don't have my favorite - the "Forbidden Games". Five lashes with old 70mm film to you for that.<<<<
You said "war fims" the poster had said best "anti war" films
No offense intended
Regards
Steve
Follow Ups:
***No offense intendedNone taken. I actually never separated the films into these two groups: War - Anti-War.
To me given the horrible nature of any war, there is only one way to portray it. So I am not ready to adapt that terminology. I am not considering the Nazi and Soviet propaganda even worth mentioning, even though some of it was masterfully done by true geniuses.
> > I am not considering the Nazi and Soviet propaganda even worth mentioning, even though some of it was masterfully done by true geniuses.Yeah, we'd better watch American propaganda, such as U-571; Enemy at the Gates ( although French director and pro-Russian - allied, that is) and name your favourite revisionist stories.
Not to mention the peasants living in Holland portrayed in 'A Bridge Too Far'.
I'm waiting for a new war- or antiwar-movie starring Europeans and Russians as Nazis. What would we do without Hollywood.
Still have to see 'Enigma'.
Rob
Well, I told you before that I don't watch - as a hard rule - American films. Some of them I later catch on free cable channels, but even then it took me I believe three viewings to finish the Private Ryan - as I had to use my puke bucket too many times. And don't even mention the American Beauty.But you are still wrong about them. They in no way compare to what I had in mind when I mentioned Leni Riefenstahl. American war movies are often just stupid compared to the best ones from the rest of the world, but they are not evil.
Hollywood is trully the shame of America. It gets particularly disgusting as you look at how many good films other countries have produced in the past, say, 20 years. A hundred at least. And America? Three? Four? Of which 80% were Woody Allen films.
Not so negative, Vitjok. Independant moviemakers also live in the US, but it's a shame they don't get decent distribution. One of the best movies I've seen in years was 'Happiness' by Todd Solontz.Rob
***Not so negative, Vitjok.Easy for you to say - you don't live in the middle of it.
I quite agree on the indies, and thank God we still have some around.
But Hollywood must go, man... we would be better off having cucumber fields there.
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