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I emailed to a local Movie theatre and complained that some scenes of
Harry Potter film were painfully loud. My Wife had ringing in her ears after the movie. Is their anything movie theatres can do about it?The movie theatre manager's response:
Dear Sir,
I'm sorry to hear that you had an unpleasant experience. As to your suggestion that we use a sound level meter, I would like to share some information with you. After the complete installation of our sound system, the technicians from Dolby Labs used some of the most sophisticated instrumentation available to calibrate the audio levels in the processors and on the amplifiers. These levels are not user assignable or changeable. We have a master volume knob only, and the individual studio recommends the volume level that is most appropriate for each of their features. We have NEVER run a movie above and it is rare indeed for us to run at the recommended level. We always run them below the recommended level. But, here is the rub: The volume cannot be set by the level of the loud scenes,
it must be set by the level of the quietest scene. It is imperative that the dialog can be understood, and so the volume is set so that all of the speech is understandable in the quietest scene. That sometimes causes the loud or battle scenes to be louder than some people would prefer them to be. Most of us sit at home with a remote and turn up the quiet scenes and down the loud ones, but that is not an option here. And, there would be many more complaints if customers could not understand the dialog. Additionally, the level of volume in any movie theater is no where near the damage threshold. As you probably know, the level of sound required to
cause discomfort is around 85dB. At 90dB there can be some hearing loss, but the level must be prolonged to do so. It is not until 120dB that sound begins to cause actual pain. The volume in our movie theater never goes above 80dB, even in the loudest battle-type scenes. In fact, it is generally more near the 60dB mark than anything else As you also probably know, Loudness is measured on a logarithmic scale (the decibel [dB] scale) wich means that every 10dB increase in loudness represents 10 TIMES that previous level's volume.
But, I digress. At any rate, I am sorry that you had a bad experience, but the sad fact is that you cannot please everyone all of the time. If I lower the volume, the quiet scenes are inaudible, and yet even as it is now, there are some people who complain that it is not loud enough.Manager
Follow Ups:
The response to your email is exactly correct. One question - do you run your home theater with dynamic compression? Because that is the only solution to your (imagined) problem.
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And another is that most have far inferior audio to what we have at home.Sadly most people WANT loud volume. Whenever I've complained it as too loud hardly anyone else understands what I'm on about.
And here's the rub. My wife is constantly complaining I have it too loud at home!!!!
Maw, give me a DVD or LD, a comfortable couch, a glass of red, and full control opver everything (except my wife) and I'm a happy peanut (we say happy little vegemite here in Australia but you probably would not know what I'm talking about, or would you?)
The only time we go to the movie house these days is when my wife wins free tickets from some competition, and then it is with earplugs & under sufference. Apologies if I sound a pain but Perhaps this might explain why -
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Theaters are set up by "pro" techs, but they are set to a standard of 85db equals 0 vu. Peaks of 14 db above that are common in action films. That puts peaks at 99db, getting into the discomfort zone. Now if you throw in the "teenage employee who got his buddy in free to try and impress him" factor, that master volume knob goes up not down.At any rate his statement that no film goes above 80db is a crock.
Steve
You think that's bad; just as well be a silent film compared to what
I and my brother endured once sitting in the 2nd front row of a midnight
showing of "Rock Horror Picture Show"; the constant yelling, laughing,
call-response type noise, so on...plus getting pelted by cups, ice,
candy,etc. We survived, but that'll be the last time for that kind of
thing. - AH
He was polite and he's entirely correct that the sound levels which appeal to you and your wife might not meet a consensus of other filmgoers; you can't please everyone. That said, I do sympathize with your complaint and have experienced both scenarios at any number of theaters over the years. Let's call this, for want of a better phrase, the "Three Bears syndrom" (i.e., each moviegoer is like an individual "Goldilocks" and the film experience is like the sampled porridge; one person will find the porridge too hot, another too cool and the third, just right, but it still boils down to individual tastes and preferences with the theater manager caught in the middle).The bottom line is that if the sound is WAY too loud you should simply ask for your money back; if it's just moderately too loud for your personal tastes you can always politely ask the theater manager to turn the sound down keeping in mind the fact that the manager might get complaints from other patrons that the sound is now too soft making dialogue inaudible. BTW, Harry Potter is the kind of action film where impressive sound and visual effects are expected.
Respectfully,
AuPh
I agree. I think the theatre manager's response was reasonable and courteous as well, but I was hoping there was something that could be tweaked like turning up the center speakers only for more intelligible speech and lowering the fronts something like that.
Hi,
that was was manure. Here's what you do. Simply go to the front of the theater and ask that the sound be turned down. It helps to be nice. When they don't, go back a couple minutes later, and ask for the manager. Just tell the manager your ears hurt, and could they please turn it down just a little, thank you very much. Works for me.
That is another reason I don't go to new movies... or try not too. They are all too often used by the two competing camps (Dolby and dts) to impress the living daylight out of the least sophisticated visitor... teenager, really, with idiotic blasts of horrible sounds.Don't blame just the movie theater manager (as he is right, he has no control over this) but those who make the movies - for they have complete control over it... well, except for those most idiotic trailers... and the trailers are the most loud part of any movie going experience today. I remember the first time the Dolby trailer hit me... unforgettable.
It is simply the extention of the present video game culture.
Good Point about crediting/blaming the movie makers.I really like action / FX movies on the large screen.
To really appreciate the beauty and thrill of some movies There is no home theatre that I can afford that can compare to the Movie theatre's big screen.
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