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In Reply to: Robert Redford. Great actor and great American. posted by edta on January 31, 2002 at 22:46:55:
I like Redford. He to me is a mellow Clint Eastwood. I particularly liked his part in The Horse Whisperer. -bolt-
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...was completely stolen by Kristin Scott Thomas. Her presense was so strong that one could very well remove Robert and replace with a doll - the effect would not be diminished.She did the same merciless kharakiri act in Random Hearts, where she reduced another "American Legend" - Ford - to a mere sketch.
And yet another scalp on her belt - Bitter Moon. This time Peter Coyote became the backdrop.
The irony is - all those three films are incredibly weak and silly.
It is also quite funny that before you made that post I was thinking about Redford vs. Eastwood myself.
The difference is I believe rather significant. Where Eastwood managed to create a strong, sympathetic and immediately recognizable character, Redford did none of that. He forever remained a piece of good looking clay with no shape of his own. In that sense he quickly fell behind Paul Neuman who just kept growing and growing into a true master, while RObert stayed locked in his looks and blue jeans.
Well, not really (one TAFKA to another).
So what did you think of her in "The English Patient"?I fell in love with the book (the only reading material
I had during a extended train trip between Munich and
Vienna) -- but didn't personally think Kristin Scott-
Thomas portrayed the woman two men gave their lives for.Still pondering which actress could have played her
better though...John
I think you are right. She had some nice and sexy moments, but the whole movie was too fakish to my taste, and she was somewhat lost in it. However, the funny part is, looking back, I think she was still more interesting than the main character - don't you think so? He always seemed so unsure of himself that she looked like his mother next to him. I haven't read the book. An interesting question: did you read it before or after seeing the film?
Victor --I'd read the book first -- about three or so years before
the movie came out. I was totally jazzed anticipating
the film -- my girlfriend at the time kept calling it "THE
movie" as we waited for its release.The book, after its first 30 pages, is stunningly lyrical.
Much of its magic is the mystery of who "the English
Patient" lying in that bed in the Italian Monastery is.
In the book you get small fragments of his memories to
piece together, pieces of greek and roman history about
egypt and libya, all of which gradually come together.The second half of the book -- about the nurse and the
sikh soldier, eventually has its own lyricism. It was one
of my favorite books -- the movie kind of took away from
that in my opinion.I've heard people say they hated the book too -- maybe there
is no middle ground.On reflection, maybe Ingrid Bergman would have made a
better Katherine.John
After you saw the film - did you reread the book? The films are always direct and powerful in the way they color our reading impressions.I have never been a fan of Ingrid, always found her lacking SEVERELY in the female sex appeal area, much like Joanne Woodward, both sexless creature, I think. and by sex I don't mean just the raw drive, but the subtle one as well, even more so perhaps.
I completely agree with your assessment of Redford. The Sting is one of my all time favorite films-you can name any actor that Redford appears with in that film-Newman, Robert Shaw, Charles Durning, Harold Gould, Eileen Brennan, Ray Walston..all of them act circles around Redford. Hell, the woman who is hired to seduce/kill his character outacts him, and I've never seen her in anything else!
I have to agree with the (Eastwood/Redford) comparison. I agree also what you wrote about Kristin Scott Thomas, however the scenery in the movie was awesome and outdid her ;)
-bolt-
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