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In Reply to: Let us talk about REAL films...Heil Hynkel..from Mr. posted by Patrick UITZ on February 12, 2002 at 06:58:28:
Chaplin's popularity was clearly on the wane with the advent of "talkies". But The Great Dictator was his greatest success, and in the light of who he was satirising; a very brave effort by an artist.
It is dated, but more salvageable than "Limelight" IMHO.
If you think movies were overly naive and sentimental then; what are they now?
Eric
Tokyo*
Follow Ups:
Yes, Charles did not want to go " Talkie " his bnrother and manger force him into it..I find it more than an brave effort..if you look at the " common " artist few have raise their voice against the nazis.
Curiously,I find Limelight ABSOLUTELY not dated,but more so " The Great Dictator "
As naivite can be love,any time,opposed to dated, a feeling we can not transport in , as we can not beleive in it...
The movie , today are mostly & plainly stupid.
France / Nice
While Chaplin was scarcely a "common artist"; and I'm sure your Post isn't implying he was; he was earning US$5,000 a week when a new Ford Coupe cost US$249.00 FOB Dearborn; the highest paid entertainer of his age, and probably the first person to truly be an instantly identifiable International personality. All the more reason why "Dictator" was such a work of courage; he was such a universally recognisable person, and being wildly famous, universally adored (except by the US Immigration Dept.) and wealthy, you'd think he would've just sat back comfortably and not bothered with something like politics and World Order. I wonder if "Herr Hitler" ever saw this film? For all it's comedy, there is no ambivalence in "Dictator"; it is profoundly anti-Nazi, anti=Hitler and Anti-totalitarian. I will take back my pronouncement of it being dated; this film still has important things to say, our World still has the same issues,and there is always a "Hynkle" waiting in the wings. Let's hope there is another Chaplin about to satirise the next "Great Dictator".
Eric
Tokyo (Rose!)
Charles was a genius. Hitler may have seen it...As Goebels had a copy that have been lend out twice and Hynkel just love movies..Beside his feud with Hoover..nobody in America wanted an film on Hitler,as they wanted to stay ( at first ) out of the beginning war .(Isol.)
-And I fully agree..If it is politic to take back the word" dated" so let do it...As he is ( the man ) universal and timeless.
Patrick / Nice / Wiesbaden
Chaplin's art as a performer and director have indeed passed the toughest test of all; the test of Time. Now we have the added perspective of decades; almost a Century of filmmaking, to compare the characterisation of the "Little Tramp" and viewed under that enormous "microscope" how remarkably well that character stands up. The test of any truly great Art; it maintains it's relevance over time. Very few films can lay claim to that. A further example is Fritz Lang's "Metropolis", released with a Georgio Moroder soundtrack in the 1980's; the Soundtrack was dated almost as soon as the film was released, but the film never will be.
Eric
Tokyo*
Dated = enclose in your own time,trapped & entrapped by the
spirit of the mode ...yes yet, genius are not,they chef dī oeuvres, touche us for ever are they are speaking to fundamentales needs of ours.
And yet it can be spoiled by our own brain..curious that you speak of Metropolis...I have NO more fun for this film since I saw
this picture with the invasive music of M.( if it could only have been M,with peter Lorre...) since then, I can not dissociate any more...it is in my head like an alien...
Patrick
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