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Saw Panic Room this weekend. Decent suspense flick.There are some long Hitchcock-y dolly shots up & down stairs etc. One in particular intrigued me. Camera dollies into a kitchen area, aiming at some object (tea kettle? I forget...) which has a handle. The shot continues, and we go THROUGH the handle on into the room. This blew my mind. How in the world is something like this done? Note that we are not talking about an effects-laden sci-fi CGI deal here. I just cannot imagine a film camera small enough to go through such a small opening. How dey do it?
TIA,
Bill
Follow Ups:
In Tenebrae (late '70's) there are some spectacularly long panning shots where at first you think the camera is on a big cherry picker outside a house, looking in through a window, but then it goes along the wall to another window, then though a crack in the wall, into a bedroom, down the stairs, into a bathroom etc all in one go.Cheers
John K
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the guy who edited Panic Room (and all of Fincher's stuff) just became a coworker. He hasn't done a job with us yet but when I see him I'll ask him.
Would going through the handle enhance the "willing suspension of disbelief" feeling in the audience (give the audience a feeling of being an abstract point in space rather than a physical observer)? Is it integral to the story that the audiences perspective travel through the handle? Or is it the cinema equivalent of the cell phone commercial where the complacent salesman tells the schmuck customer to "Put it up to your ear. See? You look cool."Tom §.
While it fit the style of Fight Club, it took me out of the Panic Room, drawing my eye to his style and the effect.
I disagree. Fincher is a hit-and-miss director and Fight Club was a definite miss. In that film, Alien 3, and The Game, he emphasized style over substance. His style adds to Panic room. His best film, though, is still Seven.Doug Schneider
If you watch the Special Features on the Fight Club disc (also directed by Fincher), you see the making of a couple of shots. One of them is the zoom into the trashcan scene and I had no idea how they did it. At first I thought it was with a fiber optic cam, but the whole thing was created as a CG.It's a guess, but I'll stick with it.
it's the craft of cinema, there is a long shot at beginning of the movie Contact in which the camera itself appears to come right thru solid window as the shot progresses to the inside of the house...The "floating feather" sequence at the beginning of Forest Gump also a cinematic powerhouse.
they can put the handle in afterwards. Just because it isn't FX laden doesn't mean effects aren't subtly applied here and there. It's also possible that it was a dolly and a long lens and the camera was seeing thru the handle before getting to it, creating the illusion of moving through it. How far into the room did the shot go after going through the handle?
The shot in question goes on for a good ways. If I had to guess I'd say some kind of fiber-optic device. If it's CGI it's scary.It's a show-off shot which draws attention to itself and does nothing much for the movie. Still, it aroused my curiosity. If you see it let me know what you think. Maybe they'll talk about it on the DVD. I'll have to take a look at that Fight Club disc.
Thanks for the replies,
Bill
I remember the shot well. I would guess it is CGI. Impressive, but perhaps not as technically intricate as other things done. If I recall, there is absolutely no movement in the room, just the camera moving through it. Imagine it as a great 3D walk through a still shot of a room.Doug Schneider
You're right, there was no movement. Seems CGI is the prevailing guess. I shudder to think what future propagandists (Goebbels/Riefenstahl) will conjure up...
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