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Of course at a low price, used is ok.Anyone know of such a beast. Looks like Creative labs has something close but doesn't indicate DTS.
Thanks, Scott
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that shows up occasionally NEW on audiogon and ebay for about $350. It listed for $1200. By all accounts, it sounds quite good in 2 channel and surround. The Acurus ACT-3 also shows up for about $650 new or near new, which listed for $2000.For receivers, the Outlaw receiver should fit the bill at $499 as a pretty good pre-pro. I have a friend with this set up which he quite enjoys
I have a Moon attraction Pre/Processor that will do all of those things pluss HDCD if you use a digital out from your CD Player. It has no phono stage so I use a separate for that but it is pretty good for what I was after.(Home theatre and 2 channel without sacrificing any on the 2 Channel).
contact Schollaudio representative/distributor Scott.he might be able to explain this post to you.
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Hi John, Yes, agreed, mainly because PL is more common. But when DTS and Dolby PL are options on the same DVD, here with my mid-fi HT receiver the DTS comes across better. Do you find that? I do have some separate amps and the 7 speakers, so easy to set up re delays (i.e. none). Actually, I'm just enthusiastic about the whole thing, Dolby or DTS. I really enjoy the movies and envy your enthusiast's setup, but I'm not in a position to decently combine the HT with a music system due to room configs in the house. So the music is separate, kind of a decision as to what's to be enjoyed more, but not a horrible choice...
These are pretty vanilla requirements. Outlaw Audio comes to mind. B&K has such a unit as well.Here is a high-end heresey: There are plenty of mass market (Sony, HK, Denon, Pioneer, JVC ...) AVRs with pre-outs. Quite a few folks take advantage of the preouts to use these as preamp/processors. Several use 24/96 or even 24/192 DACs, are compatible with other formats as well such as HDCD, Neo etc. Pioneer even applies bass management to 7.1 inputs. Comparred to more rarified audio they are dirt cheap.
Their biggest sonic compromise is stuffing 5-6 channels of amplification in to a single box and hoping that the power supply can "take it". If you use separate power amps this is moot.
The second compromise is that they usually don't have a phono input or the one they have probably won't be up to the standards of you typical vinyl afacianado.
I don't equate HT with high-end audio anyway. This is not snobism on my part. It's my about my taste in films: I spend a lot more time watching "Grand Illusion", "Ninotchka", "Diabolique" (the orginal!), etc. than I do watching "Die Hard (1-2-3)", or "X-man". I will admit, however, that seeing some re-mastered classics like "Singin' in the Rain" or "My Fair Lady" in 2 or 3 channel stereo remasterd in DD on a decent HT setup is fantastic.
As someone who invested big money in botique HT seperates, I think the value is going the other way. I say buy a mass market receiver will all the bells and whistles, which offers more for less than boutique pre/pros, and get yourself seperate amplification. This also works as a great solution when you can't seperate out your music system from your HT. In this case get a mass market receiver, a top notch 2 channel preamp with HT bypass, hook the receiver up through bypass and use external amplification. Basically the best of both worlds with more performance than the hi-end pre/pros in music and more features for the movies.My $.02
Josh
Hi,
If you have a few in mind that aren't so bad please let us
know.Too many trees in this jungle to check them all out.
My own is a Pioneer VSX-D710S (I think that's the correct model number). It has: preouts FR,FL,CC,SR,SL,SW,BR & BL.; 7.1/5.1 inputs, ProLogic (I not II), DTS, DD, Neo processing. Separately setable levels for DTS/DD, 5/7.1, Stereo, and a few DSP modes. Only the DTS/DD can be set with the test tone - the others require you to have a test disc. XO for speakers set to "small" has options for 100hz, 120hz and 160Hz. If you care it even offers a tape moniutor loop and loudness (I hven't seen these AVR before). BTW, I paid $375 including tax.)I suggest you surf www.harmonkardon.con (the 520 decodes HDCD) and www.denon.com.
My experieince with Sony is not so good. Most brand have a lot of data on their websites. You can also get some info from JandR and Crutchfield. Overall, I have the impression that Pioneer and JVC have a bit of a price advantage over the others, but you need to do some research to find "steet prices". Look at www.bndonline.com - the move overstock and closeouts - I've bought from them and find the fast and honest.
The Pioner's tape monitor works in both analog and digital. If you are playing a multichannel source, it only uses the contents of FL&FR, however.
Thanks, I've been considering getting a cheap reciever with pre-outputs for the reasons you said but was still hopeing to find a sub-300.00 preamp instead.If I don't find a seperate I'll just get a receiver instead.
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