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Someone please remind me how this is done and whether or not it is worth the effort on TDK EHG tapes. I can make very good replicas now on an s-video Panasonic recorder using EHG tape on a digital satellite source but wonder if recorded as an s-video signal it might not be even better? Note we use the 625 line PAL system here.I notice that the latest s-video Panasonic recorder (NV-HS960AM) available here is advertised as being able to record an s-video signal on standard tapes so maybe someone has experimented with this or a similar machine?
BTW I appreciate the downside that such s-video tapes can only be played back on s-video recorders.
Thanks for any input
John
Peace at AA
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Hi John,VCRs capable of recording an S-video signal onto std VHS tape are easily and affordably obtained now.
As well as the Panasonic you mention, JVC, Toshiba and Philips have models with S-VHS ET.
IMO these are cheap enough to buy and saves the hassle of drilling out tape shells and other mucking about.
Does your satellite receiver support S-Video out ?
I've experimented with the local SKY digital receiver and found that going from S-vid out of the sat. receiver to the VCR in S-VHS ET mode does show improved picture.
Going sat. composite to S-VHS ET shows little ot no improvement.
The only downside in using ET mode is that std tapes have a little bit more noise than a pukka S-VHS tape. Noticeable but not objectionable. more than compensated by the huge savings in buying std VHS instead of the S-VHS variety.
cheers
Hi MichaelActually we have two digital satellite decoders pointing at the same satellite - silly I know but the pay TV crowd (Austar) insisted on putting in their own dish & decoder. As it cost nix I did not argue!!
Anyway the Austar decoder does have an S video out but the other does not. Up to now I have been taping with the S input on the S recorder using standard tape so the recording is not in S video but the best possible signal is going in. We are getting good results.
The S-VHS ET Panasonic is not cheap here - $A1319 compared to the most expensive stereo unit (NV-F-J720A) at $A549. These are the retail prices listed on their Australian site.
The last Panasonic stereo unit I purchased 4 years ago was pretty tinny compared to the first one I got (and still have with a new head) in the 1980's. They now weigh a fraction of the old units and the picture is only marginally better and reliability poorer. They are fast approaching the "throw away" level when giving problems as the techos charge an arm and leg to even look at them. I also have two S-video recorders and they record slightly better pics and are more reliable so maybe the extra price for an s-video recorder can be justified on these grounds. S VHS tape costs nearly 3X EHG so I'm too stingy to tread that path!!!
John
Peace at AA
Agree totally re: Pannys.My favorite was one from the late 80s, the F70.
This had NICAM stereo, a great transport, flying erase heads and adjustable audio record levels. All that was missing was multi-standard PAL/NTSC rec/ play.
The current line up are toys in comparison, lightweight in construction and performance. Still the best to use though, my Philips VR999 S-VHS ET machine is a POS to use. Cranky in every respect.
Have you had a look at the JVC S-VHS ET range ?
I think these are well below the $1k mark.I'm using a Pace SKY Digital decoder.
Recently they have upgraded the operating software with disastrous results, all menu operations were reduced to walking pace.They also screwed up the setup menu.
The Pace has two SCART outputs on the back
Pre-upgrade these could be configured independently with a choice of outputs; composite, S-Video, RGB. Which was great.Post-fiddling there is now only one setup option. The chosen output applies to both SCARTs...DOH
When will these dickheads learn ?
They also broadcast in widescreen by chopping 2.40 movies down to 1.78.arghhhhhhhhhhhhh
If you compare a regular VHS tape and an S-VHS one, the S-VHS tape has a hole in the shell that the VHS shell lacks. You have to drill a similar sized hole in the VHS shell in that same spot, keeping in mind that the plastic shavings are a potential problem and that you may want to vacuum them out or something. An S-VHS machine that can record on a standard VHS tape must not have the hole detector that regular S-VHS players have, so the hole in the shell becomes a moot point.You can achieve pretty good performance doing this if the VHS tape is of relatively high quality, but I just don't think it's worth it myself. If you do a large amount of S-VHS archiving, perhaps it can be justified.
Todd
No I don't do a heap of archiving but we do project onto a large screen so I might experiment.John
Peace at AA
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