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Re: Review & Rate B&K REF 30 vs REF 20 Processer Preamps

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In Reply to: Re: Review & Rate B&K REF 30 vs REF 20 Processer Preamps posted by kotches on May 12, 2002 at 16:07:03:

They are coming out with a reference 40 soon

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Re: Review & Rate B&K REF 30 vs REF 20 Processer Preamps - kotches 11:22:46 05/13/02 (6)
Yes, which means the Ref30 people will have to wait for their promised upgrade to DPL-2, DTS-ES.
Great way to treat the loyal customer base..... NOT.
Thank god I recently dumped my Ref 30 :-)
Regards,
- Re: Review & Rate B&K REF 30 vs REF 20 Processer Preamps - floyd 14:49:57 05/13/02 (5)
  Yeah, it's horse sh**. And now I hear the upgrade won't even have DTS-ES. Thanks B&K
  - B&K vs. Panasonic??? - waVeman 04:28:48 05/14/02 (0)
    I'm trolling to be honest; over at Hi-Rez Highway they hate Technics/Panasonic components--which is what I own (I also am a fan of dvd-audio...that really puts me way down their respectibility list!). I honestly don't work for them--I just like their straight-ahead, no-nonsense products.
    BUT, how many receivers/processors have all this in one package: Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES and DPL II ?
    
    Yep, that vacuum-cleaner-building company Panasonic. Matsushita, Pansonic/Technics parent company, is branding all their HT receivers with the Panasonic name.
    I know this isn't in the same league as B&K stuff, but it would make a good bedroom or who-cares-what-the-neighbors-think system.
    Panasonic SA-HE200K receiver:
    http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/shop/NewDesign/ModelTemplate.asp?ModelId=14751&show_all=false&product_exists=True&active=1&ModelNo=SA-HE200K&CategoryId=2600
    And check out their new digital-amplifier receiver. This looks more like a B&O product than a mid-fi component:
    - SA-XR10 "flat" receiver
  - SO WHAT ARE YOU USING THAT SO GREAT? (nt) - Stocky 15:49:05 05/13/02 (3)
    ww
    - I wish someone would answer this question...the B&K looks like a great piece of hardware. <NT> - Nicholas Renter 09:08:56 05/15/02 (2)
      - Re: I wish someone would answer this question...the B&K looks like a great piece of hardware. <NT - kotches 10:56:04 05/15/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: I wish someone would answer this question...the B&K looks like a great piece of hardware. posted by Nicholas Renter on May 15, 2002 at 09:08:56:
        
        Nicholas,
        It's not that the Ref30 is a bad piece of hardware. B&K is slow, slow, slow to release any upgrades. To top that off, they are wholly uncommunicative with respect to their plans. It took > 1 year to put together a Ref20 --> Ref 30 upgrade package.
        They may or may not release an upgrade for the Ref 30, they may or may not be working on a Ref 40 which would release, maybe before the Ref 30 upgrade.
        The analog stage of the Ref 30 is lacking a bit in comparison to some other similar priced products like the Anthem AVM-20 and Classe` SSP-30.
        In terms of what I'm replacing it with? For the moment, a receiver with preamp outs while I figure out which preamp/processor is the right one for me.
        Regards,
        
        Too late....I bought the Rotel RSP-1066. <NT> - Nicholas Renter 15:29:55 05/25/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: I wish someone would answer this question...the B&K looks like a great piece of hardware. posted by kotches on May 15, 2002 at 10:56:04:

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