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In Reply to: Re: Use them for all 5 channels posted by cfraser on May 14, 2002 at 18:28:25:
Did you get wood veneer (rosewood?)? If so, what's it like, worth the considerable extra $$? Dealer didn't have any veneered models, or the Studio/40's (sold the demos, new ones tomorrow). He said the 40's sound pretty much like the 60's, which they did have. Thanks.
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Yes I got the Rosenut Veeneer before the price increase in 2001. I disagree with that the 40 sounds like the 60. The 60 has a bit more bass to it since its enclouser is almost twice in height of the 40. I did compare the two and went with the 40.
All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
I meant the 60s.
All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Nowadays, 40's with veneer cost the same as 60's without veneer. They charge a lot for it, wish I was better at veneering...Just tried some speakers on stands instead of the floorstanders. Not bad at all, and the 40's should be superior, so good enough for me this time. You see, my HT system has a pathetic receiver and so bass from the fronts is not going to be much anyway. That's one of the reasons I wanted to get my good floorstanders out of there and put them to better use.
I have also run into some I guess what you'd call bass management issues, so will live with what the Titan sub can do for now, which is quite decent.
The plan is to move the 40's to the surrounds in the future, they're the same size as what I already use and should be a nice upgrade in quality. The 60's would be too tall/heavy for this future mounting situation.
Well, it kind of looked like a lava lamp with the light reflections on it. Now that I don't have to get that too, I guess I can go for the wood veneer with the extra $$.
The Center Channel is in effect a 40/60 so it is a perfect match. I do about 60/40 (music/ht). My daughter is more like 10/90. You really begin to appreciate Scooby Doo in surround sound. Some of the Disney stuff gives the amps and speakers a good workout. Neighbors complained (houses are rather close together) until they realized the free baby sitting. It capitavates all the young ones into the movie/show.Findining multichannel music that is mixed appropriately is hard. The DTS only discs availabe are limited and somewhat costly. Since I don't plan to purchase a DVD-A or SACD transport/player for a while or until they actually restore the bass management into future units, I don't consider DVD-A / SACD discs. Some of them do include a DTS or Digital Dolby track but like I stated earlier, the mix doesn't sound right sometimes. In doing comparisons with the same disc on two different formats (DTS vs PCM w/ProLogic) PCM using ProLogic was better, beleivable and more enjoyable.
Good luck on finding a good price for the speakers. Just a quick question: Have you look into VonSchweikert VR2s used? Look around some of the higher quality HIFI stores - They sound more transparent that the 60s or 100s.
All I ask is for a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
I have looked around for used good quality small speakers. I have run into a lot of BS so far, and done a lot of running around to no avail. Since the speakers aren't for music, I am not being as picky as usual, but the 60's sounded just fine to me, so hoping the 40's with similar drivers will be fine too.Besides getting the good music speakers out of this system for reassignment, the other (main) reason for changing the HT speakers is I want a matching sound-wise center (CC in this case). That has limited my used choices (i.e. need two pairs in effect) so dealing is tricky. I am a recent convert to the "center matches the fronts" thing, I do notice the difference/improvement very much compared to when the center is "mismatched". In fact, I think a mismatched center is worse than no center in some ways. This is at friends' houses who have cheap matching front/center speakers, sounds better than with my good fronts and mismatched center as far as a "sonic front" goes. I always intuitively knew this was the way to do it, and since I have invested a fair amount in this system already, it's time to do the speakers. BTW, though Paradigms have quite set prices, they are very reasonably priced in Canada compared to imports, possibly excepting Magnepan.
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