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CMH

Hi-
Hoping I can get some answers here... I have been hearing that the RP56 is discontinued, to be replaced with the RP62. Then I found this site:
http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2002/sources/page_03.shtml
This says that the new players, the RP62, RP82, and CP72 all have the Sage/Faroudja chipset.
However, talking to the local shop as well as Panasonic customer service, I'm hearing the new ones do not have the Sage chipset. I've heard many great things about this chipset, so think it's what I want to go for. Does anyone know for sure that the new players don't have the Sage/Faroudja chipset?
If that's the case, I think I'm going to find an RP56 on closeout, unless someone else has a better suggestion.
Thanks...
cmh

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Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - Capper 05:31:08 06/30/02 (0)
To answer your question, CES displayed the RP56 at their 2002 show and suggested the cp72 (which was rated as high), check out the link. Also, check out hometheatrehifi.com and go to the DVD Benchmark> 2001 August shootout and make your own determination about the Sage/Faroudja chip, and talk to a trusted Home Theater dealer to answer your questions. These two sites should give you enough to make an informed decision. But Panasonic's new CP72 is slated to carry the Sage chip.
- http://www.smr-home-theatre.org/ces2002/sources/page_03.shtml
Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - EdM 13:38:35 05/17/02 (12)
The Genesis chip is actually better but only available on the RP91.
Better scaling, no chroma bug.
There are still units for sale out there.
onecall.com has them for $550 or so shipped.
- Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - kotches 20:01:47 05/17/02 (1)
  Ed:
  Sage/Faroudja is demonstrably superior to the Genesis deinterlacing chipset.
  Chroma bug is a function of the MPEG decoder, not deinterlacing engine.
  Panasonic is changing over to Sage/Faroudja for deinterlacing, as is Philips.
  Regards,
  - Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - Mojave Green 14:57:16 05/23/02 (0)
    Actually, the word I received from Panasonic earlier this week is that their new progressive players will NOT be using the Faroudja de-interlacer.
    Steve
- Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - cmh 16:12:22 05/17/02 (9)
  You sure about that? I've seen a couple reviews where the RP91 was rated far lower than the RP56. From my limited research, the Sage/Faroudja chipset seems to be the cat's meow in terms of progressive chipsets.
  - Re: New Panasonic DVD players? - EdM 07:55:54 05/18/02 (8)
    If you go over to the avsforum.com you'll get many opinions regarding the RP91 being the absolute best out there right now. The RP56 is no slouch either.
    - RP91 really isn't an option. - cmh 07:22:56 05/19/02 (7)
      Thanks for the link and the info on the RP91. Right now, the RP91 is way out of my league, especially since I just got laid off! :D The RP56 is far closer, but what I was really interested in was the real info on the new Panasonic progressive decks... if they're still using the Sage/Faroudja chipset.
      If they are, and the info on the link I sent out is right, then it looks like the CP72 is *exactly* what I've been looking for:
      * Progressive with Sage/Faroudja chipset
      * not silly expensive
      * MP3 capability
      * 5 disc changer to replace my old CD changer
      * DVD-Audio
      Since the RP56 has the ones that are really important to me (the first two or three), I won't be really heartbroken if Panasonic switched to another chip.
      - ** DVD Players with Sage/Faroujda Chip "Directly From Panasonic" - Capper 12:30:46 07/02/02 (4)
        
        In Reply to: RP91 really isn't an option. posted by cmh on May 19, 2002 at 07:22:56:
        
        I called Panasonic to determine if the CP72 has the Sage/Faroujda chipa and she did a search on which players had the chip and this is what she gave me
        XP-30
        XP-50
        CP-67
        RP-62
        and the
        RP-56
        The others might be progressive scan but they don't have the Sage chipset.
        
        Man, I really wish we could get a definitive answer from Panasonic - cfraser 15:29:45 07/04/02 (3)
        
        In Reply to: ** DVD Players with Sage/Faroujda Chip "Directly From Panasonic" posted by Capper on July 02, 2002 at 12:30:46:
        
        like on their website or something... No offense to you, but they have given different answers re the RP62/82 over the last few months. Don't know of anybody having opened the RP62, or having done a test that proves S/F chips, but since it's not much different than the RP56 in a cheaper package... I guess this is wishful thinking, Panny is not likely to provide this info openly since S/F is perceived as superior, and the RP82 (maybe) and RP91 don't have it...
        Why do I care? I want S/F, have an RP82 on order. Have a chance to get another RP56 quite cheap now ($120), it won't last, would prefer it if RP82 isn't S/F FOR SURE.
        
        Re: Man, I really wish we could get a definitive answer from Panasonic - Capper 18:58:56 07/24/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Man, I really wish we could get a definitive answer from Panasonic posted by cfraser on July 04, 2002 at 15:29:45:
        
        Here is the response from Panasonic. I called three different times and received the same answers three separate times, and I received this response from Panasonic. Stick to your single player RP56, when Sears already carries the CP-67 5 disc at a whopping 199.00, and bring your ad in and they will match the $169.88 price I found on the net.
        Dear Panasonic Customer,
        Thank you for your inquiry. The models which are currently on sale which use the Sage Faroudja progressive chip (FLI2200)are listed below. Other models which are not yet out such as the DVDXP30 and XP50 also use the same IC.
        
        DVDCP67
        DVDRP62
        DVDRP56
        SAHT95
        DVDRP56U
        Should it be necessary to send a reply; to ensure our prompt response, please mailto:consumerproducts@panasonic.com Please note; when responding, include or attach this message.
        Sincerely,
        Representative 26
        Panasonic Customer Call Center
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Kevin and Debbie Capper [mailto:kcapperfamily@coserv.net]
        Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:59 PM
        To: Panasonic Consumer Products
        Subject: Sage/Faroujda
        
        Can you please provide me with a list of the Progressive Scan DVD players
        that will carry the Sage/Faroujda chip. I am going to buy one but am
        confused about which ones do and do not carry the Sage chip.
        Thanks
        
        Another instance of Panny (mis/dis)information? - cfraser 13:05:49 07/05/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: Man, I really wish we could get a definitive answer from Panasonic posted by cfraser on July 04, 2002 at 15:29:45:
        
        Every single "picture" of an RP82 rear that I've seen shows it does not have a coaxial digital audio output, but Panny says it DOES have one on their website. Preferable to me, as I personally don't like Toslink.
        
        Yeah I prefer S/PDIF coax... - Aroc 08:58:00 07/09/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Another instance of Panny (mis/dis)information? posted by cfraser on July 05, 2002 at 13:05:49:
        
        especially since my DAC does not have toslink inputs! Personally I'm torn between the Panasonic DVD-RP56/RP62/RP82 and Denon DVD-1600. Not sure if I want to get DVD-A support, or not. The sound is probably improved in the Denon. But I only watch 1-2 DVDs/week. So how important should a DVD player be to me? $500? $250? $150? I have a decent TV, Toshiba 36AF61. Gorgeous pciture. But it's isn't high-def.
        Also looks of the RP82, in two-tone silver/black - is just play ugly, 1980's style (or something). RP62 is not much better. The Deono looks decent, but is at least twice as much as the other players I've listed. Decisions, decisions...
      - How about the new Panasonic DVD-XP50 coming this August? - waVeman 22:02:57 05/20/02 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RP91 really isn't an option. posted by cmh on May 19, 2002 at 07:22:56:
        
        Go here:
        XP50 player (& only 1.7 inches thick)
        
        Re: How about the new Panasonic DVD-XP50 coming this August? - cmh 06:15:38 05/21/02 (0)
        
        In Reply to: How about the new Panasonic DVD-XP50 coming this August? posted by waVeman on May 20, 2002 at 22:02:57:
        
        Interesting... I'll definately consider it when it's out and when there's more real info on the other new ones I mentioned... but in the meantime, no more putting up with nasty-ass images from my cheap GE, the RP56 should be here today! :D :D :D
        
        cmh

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