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In Reply to: Denon DVD-3800 posted by retep56 on June 16, 2002 at 10:35:24:
This may be of interest...Goodluck...
... Paul
The Denon DV-1600 is based on a Panasonic RP-56.The DV-3800 is Denon's own design, and uses ESS' Legato MPEG decoder, which has chroma bug.
Comparing SI vs. Faroudja is one of those "which do you prefer" type discussions.......
I've been looking to pick up an inexpensive DVD player, but mostly to play some mp3 CDs for a parties. Costco has an interesting Toshiba model SD-K700, I think, which might be equvalent to the 3750.Do any of the under $500 players do mp3 significantly better than others?
Thanks
No.
Does that mean that none of them are any good or that they're all about the same or that I need to up the anty?Thanks
I think he means that they're pretty much the same. I mean, it's MP3... FWIW, I have a real cheap DVDP (less than $100) that I use for stuff like that. It plays every disc format except DVD-A and SACD, and does a great job with MP3's. Sounds even better with an external DAC. Ummm, you can put so many MP3 tunes on a single CD that I'm not sure you'd need a changer unless your parties last for many days non-stop, and people might not notice a "repeat" by the party's third or fourth day...
Thanks, that's sort of what I thought he might have meant. And no, I wasn't thinking of a changer, just a chear player. I'm still waiting for allt he dust to settle before I get into the DVD-A or SACD thing.What do you mean about an external DAC? That would only be for CDs, right? Or do they put the MP3 signal out as a digital stream?
Mine puts out a regular 44.1 PCM signal on the digital/coaxial output for MP3's.
That's interesting, is that the Panasonic?I wonder if they all do that. I've got an extra Toslink input on my DAC.
It's the Apex. The RP56 doesn't have a coaxial out for my DAC (no Toslink input), so I only use it with the video/HT gear and haven't investigated its audio capabilities.
Ah, ok. I suppose I'll have to haul my DAC and an mp3 disk down to my local Circuit City and find out. I noticed that the Apex machines seem to get good marks. Based on vcdhelp.com, it looks like the main contenters are the Panasonic RP56 and the JVC XV-S500BK. Surprisingly, the JVC gets better marks there while the hometheaterforum folks seem to be enamored with the Panasonic machines.
That JVC model is newish, and is supposed to be very good for video. The RP56 is discontinued and is also very good for video, exhibits slightly less "standard" video glitches than the JVC under testing conditions, but the JVC is supposedly excellent in actual use. The replacement for the RP56 is the RP62 (or RP82 with DVD-A) which should be as video glitch-free as the RP56.However, I have noticed that the "best" players for DVD's are not the best players for music. For instance, of what I have listened to, I think some Pioneers and Denons are definitely better. Maybe check out the Denon 1600 for RP56 quality video and decent quality audio, if you care about video for your MP3 player.
The cheap Apex 1500 I have has worked flawlessly. This brand is built to a fairly low quality standard, but it does lots, and is possibly best viewed as disposable/short-term. It's S-video output with DVD's is actually quite good. It's fine for MP3 music too, even better with an external DAC. A good brand for "fooling around" with. Protections are in firmware, so easily hacked without dirtying your hands.
I guess what I'm saying is: pick a good DVDP for its video capability, pick something functional for the MP3's (probably the same machine), you already have a good CDP for serious music listening.
I had noticed that the Apex machines do get great reviews and incredibly cheap. Yes, I'm not looking for it to be a CDP, got one of those, I just want a while in a blue moon mp3 player and might use it occassionally for a rental DVD. Since I don't have a hi-end TV, S-video is fine.At these prices points, it's nearly a who cares type of thing. If I don't like it, I've got plenty of kids that would gladly take it off of my hands.
after I came home, checked on the web to make sure it wasn't a complete dog, then went back and bought it. At the time there was a reliability/DOA issue on some models, so I got mine at the Wally Mart, a place with a no questions return policy, JIC. I planned to do a "bobwire" on it, but in fact have never even opened it up...unusual for me.Besides giving a "reject" to your kids, also consider one for your parents (preferably a working one, be nice). I'm giving my RP56 to my parents when the RP82 comes in. Older people seem to find the DVD's a lot less hassle than VHS tapes, even more than we do; my parents ate up CD's when they saw how much easier they were than cassettes. They're at the age where you have to give them "new" technology, they never choose it themselves...
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