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In Reply to: dealing with Gordian knots posted by late on November 13, 1999 at 18:56:16:

I understand that POV, but what do you do when...
... the limitations of stereo's front only virtual staging & imaging ...
... the poor steering of HT processing & SS flare ...
... begin to annoy one?

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Ralph the Dog said it best... late 14:18:38 11/14/99 (5)
'Hope that something better comes along' ( original Muppet Movie)
- sorry about the Nom De Plum... Mart 20:40:46 11/14/99 (4)
  ... it wasn't intentional. I was burraged by a plethora of concepts that I wanted to convey to help illustrate my POV. One of which was my choice of speakers, Magnepan. I chose them since they exhibit a magnificent compromise between HT & audio. The sound is fast[video] & clean[audio], w/ dynamic-imaging[video] & expansive-stage[audio]. The only problems are the:
  1) usual speaker manufacture blunder of approximate -6dB lull @ the XOs which the recently purchased Krell rectifies.
  2) dipole configuaration which the laterally enclosed egg-crate fixes.
  3) non point-sourced center-channel which 2 cures.
  4) intrusively distinct rears [MGLR1] which lateral placement diseminates.
  ... but the adjacently mounted tall drivers render an image that encourages steering in an enormous murial.
  Similarly, I wanted tube dynamics with silver ICs @ line-level to keep things immaculate until power is required. Then, SS propells the tube-suppied dynamic-impact via 9ga [3 braided pairs of 12ga generic MonsterCable] copper speaker wire to my maggies.
  my thoughts anyway
  - nominal plumbing late 08:00:27 11/15/99 (3)
    hi Mart,
    no prob on the plume (plum?). The Klyne i mentioned earlier has
    a surprisingly tube like sound ( the first time i heard it i didn't believe it was SS until i looked into the box ). So i have a rough idea of what you want; and in most ways, that system will sound much better than mine.
    what really turned me around was listening to a ML HT powered
    by very nice gear like Spectra (never saw, or even heard, of it before that day; but it sure looked expensive). When the Diva sang, i had goose bumps, and chills. My friend ( who is into the video end of it and uses Def Tech/Adcom was talking with the salesperson about the setup. I'm falling in
    love with a blue alien who sings like an angel; and their talking chroma levels ( or something)). I mean wow. But when music was not playing, incidental noises often sounded wrong. I have mentioned gunfire, as an example, many times, but it happened a lot during the few minutes i watched.
    so what i suggest is go audition hi end home theater; and make sure
    that that is what you really want.
    - don't worry, I aint ignoring you at all... Mart 23:42:05 11/15/99 (2)
      I just can't find a 5.1 channel Klyne nor any deeler where I can audition one. I have been looking. Got a clue? Afterall, I'm new to this end & take all advice seriously.
      I was hoping for the round full-fledged very-real dynamics with incredible detail w/o the British sultry velvet nature that many audiophile swoon over. It has been my limited expirience that this usually only happens with either signal-transformers or copper ICs on tubes, but becomes very alive with silver.
      - clueless late 15:28:08 11/16/99 (1)
        
        In Reply to: don't worry, I aint ignoring you at all... posted by Mart on November 15, 1999 at 23:42:05:
        
        hi,
        basically, no. I think the Proceed is great, and there are even
        more expensive ones, but it is all beyond my budget.
        Someday i will upgrade my B+K, but dolby 6.1 will prob come out first.
        I seem to remember you saying you didn't care for the Krell processor;
        i thought it was amazing, with a price to match. My guess is HT will keep
        getting better sounding; but it will take a while before they get where you want them to be.
        
        just purchased a used amp Mart 01:37:23 11/18/99 (0)
        
        In Reply to: clueless posted by late on November 16, 1999 at 15:28:08:
        
        that being a Krell KAV-500 for $2600 & awaiting its arrival. I'm hoping that it'll do to my MG2.7s (& the MGCC1 also used & coming) what I heard it do to my MGLR1 in the store. And that was invigorate the entire spectrum with a uniform output. Even when I removed the attenuating resistor & all my XO tweaking, the differences were insignificant. this never happened before on any amp (McIntosh, Marantz, Sunfire, B&K, Mark Levinson, VAC, NAD, Proceed).

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