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In Reply to: Re: Sony Grand Wega LCD vs Plasma posted by hpc on September 26, 2002 at 10:12:55:
Yeah, plasmas are stinkin' expensive, which sucks.Regarding resolution: A couple days ago I watched an HDTV feed on a Loewe HD wide-screen CRT, inches away from the same feed on a Pioneer 43" plasma. The Loewe should have had the advantage, as it was HD resolution, and a slightly smaller screen, which our eyes usually perceive as being sharper than a bigger screen. However, the plasma kicked the Loewe's butt in displaying a sharper, more precise, more realistic image in every way. There were natural details in the color and texture to people's faces on the plasma that were glossed over or rendered more crude on the Loewe.
In some instances the detail seemed to be there in the Loewe, but it seemed fuzzier, more crude, and never made that leap to the looking-through-a-window vibe that the Pioneer had. (Which I attribute to the inherent lack of precicion involved in the older CRT ray gun/phosphor screen technology, vs the always precise fixed pixels of a plasma). The Loewe just looked like a really good TV. The Pioneer looked "real."Rich H.
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the rest of us think they're junk.
I'm obviously not part of "the rest of us".Two years ago I'd have agreed with you 100%. After 2 months of looking at HD displays of various kinds, I'd say that unless you're going to buy a high quality FP, there are compromises to be made with any current HD displays. If you think there aren't any compromises with the Loewe, think again. It's only a 38" screen, it's extremely heavy, has only one HD component input and it has a curved tube.
CRT, RP, DV, plasma, DLP, LCD...each has advantages and disadvantages.
The better plasmas on the market excell with HD content. They look very good to me, and while I'm no engineer, I'm fairly critical. Plasmas, of course, have their compromises, and they're relatively pricey. But one can buy a darned good looking Panny 42" for under $3800. That's competetive with RP and a Loewe Aconda, not to metion 200lbs lighter than the Loewe.
If you don't like plasmas, fine. Different strokes for different folks. But they're hardly "junk".
Black is supposed to be black, not grey, and nothing less than a 7 ft wide picture works for me after dark. During the day, I settle for 65". And nothing resolves HD like a CRT front projector.
...and I weren't selling this house in 6 months, I'd be going for a FP. Most of the people I know who really get cranky about plasmas are FP owners. I can understand why. FP on a 84" to 100" screen is wonderful done well. Great blacks too...assuming this is a CRT and not a DLP, although the FP DLPS are getting very good. I envy you. Glad your enjoying your system.However, for the rest of us, *subjectively* speaking, I just happen to think the better plasmas can offer a pleasing picture. It's not perfect. But I don't think it's junk. And it's way better than the big LCDs - if you think plasmas have grey blacks, the current Panny and SOny LCD RPs are far, far worse in this respect. Greyscale is poor. No deep shadow detail at all. I can live without the deepest blacks - I can't live without some detail in the shadows.
BTW, we're regulars over at our friend's house for watching his 65" Pioneer Elite RP. Nice display. This beast won't fit in my room.
***And it's way better than the big LCDs***I ageee. LCD looks horribly artificial.
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