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In Reply to: RPJ guru's, lend me an ear ! posted by audioman on January 19, 2003 at 10:34:56:
Re: progressive scan, in general, yes, it does produce a superior picture. While watching your DVDs, did you notice any digital artifacts, such as jagged edges on diagnol lines? This is one place where you can see a difference (there are others). OTOH, if it isn't bugging you, why spend the money? The higher quality progressive scan DVD players (with the Faroudja chips) will only get cheaper over time.Re: digital cable / sat, if you are watching analog cable now, it will range in quality from intolerable to average. Some of this depends on how good the line doubler is in your RPTV, but even a great line doubler can't perform miracles on a low quality analog signal. Without question, digital cable or satellite will be an improvement over analog cable.
Lastly, there are outboard devices that can improve the quality of all inputs. They can be broadly divided into two groups: those that produce a great picture, and those that are reasonably priced. Caveat emptor, to be sure.
In my case, I started with analog cable and went to Dish Network satellite. I also use an HD tuner to pull in local HD broadcasts. I don't have a progressive scan DVD player yet, but it's on my list of future acquisitions.
Hope this helps, and good luck. Enjoy that new set!
Follow Ups:
Thanks for this very honest and pointed advice. I tried a little experiment tonight that really helped. I plugged all the video devices and TV into my BPT 2.0 power line conditioner. This really helped all aspects of picture etc.My only reservations at this point with keeping the set ( I do have the opportunity to exchange it within 10 days ) are just a few points.
1.) Off axis viewing is not the greatest
2.) The black levels really loose out in terms of detail and resolution, and of course, the intolerable-to-average cable signal which you also mentioned.I have the opprtunity to pick up a used Panasonic RP-56 DVD player which I am told by the seller has the Faroujda chip which produces good interlacing specs and " should " improve the movie watching by a small margin.
I really do like the cinematic size of the RPJ sets, but I am going to put it side-by-side with a comparably priced FST flat 36" just to see how much picture quality I am really giving up before I sign the invoice.
thanks again
I forgot all about that. Your results are what I'd expect. I also ran my analog cable through a noise filter (HTS-1000) and it improved the picture by a surprising amount. Still was a medoicre picture, but a lot of the snow was eliminated. Go figure.Your TV decision is a tough call. Do you think you'll like it better over time, or is it more likely to bug you every time you use the set? The challenge is to buy a good enough set to meet your needs now and perhaps for a few years without it turning into a boat payment for the vendor. I can say that for my money, even if the price was a steal, if it's going to annoy me each time I use it, it doesn't stay in my home. There are plenty of other ways to drive myself nuts (this hobby, for example).
The RP-56 seems to have a good reputation. A search of the board here and at www.audioreview.com should help you find opinions of others that have direct experience with the unit. I have only read about it.
Putting the TVs side-by-side is a good idea. Do you know about the brightness trick? With two identical sets, the brighter one will "look" better -- and sets on the showroom floor are usually overcranked. Sometimes the brightest set has the better dealer profit margin. Coincidence?
The other thing to consider is that picture tubes will be brighter than an RPTV. Depending on the light level in your room, either can be a good solution once the brightness is correctly adjusted.
Have fun with the testing. Now get out there and stimulate the economy! :-)
and like a true video patriot, stimulating that " old man economy " is exactly what I did again today!.... It was like I was in Terminator trance, only this time, a full armour of credit cards adorned the hair trigger position !Yes, the picture, bars, fuziness, adjustments all bug me a little, as doers the black levels, but I found out that the Toshiba 42HDX82 RPJ was professionally isf'd before delivery. This is likely what lowered the brightness and created the faux pas ( although a welcomed one over time )...Yes, BQ, common sense tells me to get the 36HFX72 FST flat right away, and I normally always concur with your sentiments regarding " fitting the needs now " clause or else she goes, but I have decided to ride this widescreen bull a little longer as I fell relatively convinced that more and more channels will follow suit to hi-def which will inevitably put pressure on the broadcasting depts. to come up to par.
Giggling like an English schoolgirl, I morphed my way over to the local hi-fi shop and plunked down 600 quid for the Pioneer DV-47AI, which I have been told, are soooooooo many internal settings for chroma, black levels, white levels, etc, etc. that any dvd disc should look great. Also, will do SACD and DVD-A.
Buyers remorse?..........Well, not yet anyway, perhaps when the VISA bill gets here, but until then, IT'S MOVIE TIME!!!!!
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