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Why don't you look at Outlaw pre/pro 950 for $900 new?

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In Reply to: Receivers as Preamp/Pro posted by JLarry on April 03, 2003 at 01:22:18:

it has all the latest formats 24/192 processors built in base managment etc.

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Re: Why don't you look at Outlaw pre/pro 950 for $900 new? - JLarry 01:30:16 04/07/03 (5)
I have considered Outlaw and still do. I was not in a hurry, but tonight my AVR 9080 Newcastle bit the dust. The problems that Outlaw has had in the past few months scare me a little. I think they will get it together but I prefer to wait until they get the bugs out. I am leaning to the Sony ES at this point. I will not need the back amps now as someone backed out on buying my 5 channel Carver and I now have 12 amps to use. I would still rather be in seperates, but the untimely death of my Newcastle will make me move faster unless I can get inside tomorrow and solve the problem. It the meantime I will sit back and listen to my old tubes playing older Records.
- Why don't you look at Outlaw pre/pro 950 for $900 new? - AmirB 13:06:54 04/07/03 (4)
  reading the Outlaw forum (for the past year)it seems that all the bugs are gone. they have been producing this amp (and clones) for a while now. the main bug was the hiss that seems to be gone now. I don't think you can go wrong. However I would be not consider a used one. You might find a rotel I think 1066 for about 1200 new and better yet for a lot less used. I looked at it when I was in the market and it seemed to have most of the features you need for HT. For 2 channels none come close to a good 2 ch tube amp.
  Regards
  Amir
  - Re: Why don't you look at Outlaw pre/pro 950 for $900 new? - JLarry 00:40:43 04/08/03 (3)
    On Outlaw I Know of at least 2 major problems discussed on the boards that are relatively reent. The Hiss from late last year and just recently a decoding problem with DTS EX (I believe that was the format). I also am not fond of the BM used in 6 chanel mode. They Rotel I have also considered. I agree on buying not just Outlaw but any processor used. Lot of times a great deal, but a lot of time you inherit someone elses problems. That has happened to me too many times. I have had very few problems buying TT, Speakers, Amps , Preamps and even the ones I had could problems with could be easily fixed. Buying used processors with all functions and software involved, I think I will go for a warrented unit.
    JLarrry
    - All the talk about problems with the Outlaws.... - lwang 10:35:20 04/08/03 (2)
      but are the same problems plaguing the Atlantic Technology and Sherbourn clones?
      - Re: Yup - same box - same probs (nt) - williak 14:31:07 04/08/03 (1)
        
        In Reply to: All the talk about problems with the Outlaws.... posted by lwang on April 08, 2003 at 10:35:20:
        
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        Re: Yup - same box - same probs (nt) - JLarry 01:28:49 04/10/03 (0)
        
        In Reply to: Re: Yup - same box - same probs (nt) posted by williak on April 08, 2003 at 14:31:07:
        
        Now I may end up with a Outlaw. Now ruling it out, just worried with the bugs. And Yes all the clones seem to have it and Rotel has their on set of problems according to the Outlaws. My decision must come quicker than I had hoped as my Newcastle fried on Sunday night.

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