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In Reply to: Re: First of all, forget the 42"... posted by peter earnshaw on November 22, 2003 at 11:39:07:
If not, someone needs to tell them their clowns are loose. You might want to see if there's a reward.The Fujitsu should have a DVI input. If not, it's probably a 2002 or earlier model. The 2003s have DVI-HDCP inputs.* In the video department, DVI and HDMI are more or less the same. HDMI adds the capability of digital audio and some control signals (so components can talk to each other) -- not much to gain for a display: it's more geared towards linking source components and/with receivers/processors. For the most part, DVI-HDCP vs HDMI ends in a tie for displays.
That said, when true 1920x1080p displays become available, HDMI has the bandwidth for this resolution. Single-link DVI will handle 1080i and 720p resolution, what's available today, quite easily. There are currently no native 1080p sources and no native 1080p plasmas. Samsung, LG Electronics and Fujitsu may change that in late 2004. Rest assured, prices for these 70"+ plasmas will start at about $20k, so start fasting now.
If you have a DVI capable DVD player, you can get a DVI-to-HDMI cable from Panasonic for $40US. All of the digital video will be transferred to the display. I think the HDMI-to-HDMI cables, for DVD players that will have an HDMI output, will run about $50US.
* Fujitsu: DVI-HDCP on current modelsHD model
http://www.plasmavision.com/P42VHA20US.htmlED model
http://www.plasmavision.com/P42HHA10WS.html
Follow Ups:
Joe, thanks for your help on this. I don't plan to route digital audio to the display so there's no worries about HDMI versus DVI; would just be using the plasma as display, although with a couple of small speakers tacked onto the side for when I'm watching TV as I don't want to fire up the full hi-fi experience for, say, the BBC news.Just one final question - does the AVM processor in the Fuji essentially do the job of the Silicon Image iScan line doubler, or would that still have a worthwhile impact on the lower-quality programme from Sky TV?
I really can't tell you which processor would win in a shootout. The DVDO units are well respected for the job that they do and the capabilities that they have. But Fujitsu's AVM processor is just as respected. Unless you can do a side by side comparison or find someone who has or had both to compare, there's just no way of knowing.You can interpret the meaning of this for yourself, but I searched on AVS forum with several combinations of fujitsu, iscan and dvdo for an interval of the last 6 months. I only found one person who asked about using one with his Fujitsu plasma: there were no responses, despite the fact that several members on AVS own Fujitsu plasmas.
It sounds like SKY is a turd. And as you should know, polishing a turd doesn't change the fact that it's still a turd no matter how hard or how long you polish it. If you insist on trying to make it look good, the only way that illusion is going to work is to feed it what it was designed for -- a 27" - 36" direct view CRT.
We also have SKY digital down here.It's no more a turd than the small dish/MPEG2 based systems you have in the US.
:P
If your display device has RGB capability, SKY digital can look pretty good. Even on 50" plasmas.
cheerio
just to add...the differences between the scalers (if any) will be very small. Today's plasma units offer very good internal scaling. I have tried the DVDO and Focus Enhancements products on my display and saw very little difference. The NEC was superior to the DVDO, while the Focus Enhancement was slightly superior with the 852 x 480 format. The enhancements were so small that I put the scaler up for sale and now use the NEC as the main unit.The trick to a great plasma image is clean ac. Filtered ac can do wonders for a plasma video image. Of late I have been involved with a OEM project for a scalable dvd player. I was very impressed with the 1080i output into the NEC. The big selling point for me was the sharper image and color saturation. A couple of days ago I just put the finishing touches on a new power conditioner design I have been working on for 120-240v applications. Prior to the power conditioner the OEM player surpassed a EAD TheaterVision dvd player I have in house that uses DVDO progressive outputs. After I added the power conditioner the EAD was the equal to the OEM model. The image was sharper, more dimensional, and had improved color saturation. My point is there are lots of ways to improve the image besides scaling.
Alan
Ok, that's fair enough. Actually, I forgot to note another reason for considering the iScan scaler/line doubler would be to convert from various sources - Svideo, SCART, even composite - into component so there is only one run of cable snaking its' way through my rafters and down to where the plasma is going to hang from (it'll be hanging over the fireplace from the ceiling).
you are not worried about component video with a plasma display, the important issue is that your input video source matches the display native resolution. the nice thing about using the internal scaler is that it will convert your video source to the native resolution. if you want to purchase a scaler then i suggest something like a nrs that matches the native resolution. any old scaler like a dvdo will not match the native resolution. one of the big things we did with the dvd player is we made sure we covered plasma resolutions. right now we offer 852 x 480 standard via the dvi output. our component allows you to flip between 480p, 720p, and 1080i. most outboard scalers only output 600 x 480m (typical dvdo circuit).alan
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