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In Reply to: anyone doe business with a Steven Farley posted by green lantern on December 04, 2003 at 09:01:04:
That is a little cheap for a plasma display especially now with the Euro hammering the dollar. Something smells with this deal. My 42" plasma cost $5700 when I was living in the states. I'm over in Germany now and the going rate for a 42" plasma is around 6200 euro ($7440 with todays $1.20 exchange rate) without the currency conversion.
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agree although 42" can be had from $2400 and up now on ebay. He won't list the item on ebay and further inquiry reveals much of his feedback are for 'books' purchased thru him. Question: will Visa go to bat for me if I get ripped off in such a transaction?
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I doubt Visa would be able to do anything about it for 2 reasons. 1. He is probably not a legit business. 2. He is located outside the US.Keep in mind a cc is not a widely accepted item here in europe. I can't tell you how many times my wife and I went out for dinner and the resturant would not accept a credit card as a form of payment.
All be careful because plasma displays from the leading companies (NEC, Panasonic, Sony) under $3k is usually re-furbished. Check with the manufacture before purchasing.
Its a scam. Be very careful if Western Union is the only way he'll go. Usually, there's a sad story why the seller is in Europe, Parents car accident, on business, etc. I mean did they take the tv with them? Also, watch for third grade English, its a tip off.Even more, I had one guy offer to have Ebay send me email to vouch for him. Incredible, Ebay doesn't do that, it has the same poor English and punctuation. Its all a hoax. Email a couple of these great deals, you'll get back nearly identical come ons.
I can find 20 Plasma scams a day on Ebay with little effort. Email if you want to know more. And if sounds too good to be true...
I believe you're right; check it out:I wrote:
> > I perfer to purchase the item on ebay. You have very good feedback but
> > feedback is only good for items purchased on ebay. Otherwise I would have
> > very little (if any) recourse if things go wrong. Being a businessman and
> > based out of country you can appreciate my concern.HIS reply was:
> yes and you can pay on line at www.westernunion .com 1000 $.
> after that send me the next details and i will ship right away:
> -SENDER FULL NAME AND ADRESS
> -RECEIVER FULL NAME AND ADRESS
> -MTCN
> -AMOUNT
> here is my name and adress:
> steven farley
> AVENIDA 5 DE OUTUBRO 146 A
> CAMPO PEQUENO
> LISBON , 1050
> PORTUGAL
> waiting for your decision............
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conclusion:
Hey I'm not saying this guy's a fraud; In fact he may very well be on the up-n-up; but I think I'm gonna pass on this one! thanks again all.
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I have had the same conversation with this clown, except I had the luxury to know he was a fraud. Ask him a question about plasma tv. He won't answer it, he will only dwell on the deal and what HE WANTS, not what you request. Oh, and he needs cash to meet some sudden calamity or life change. They seldom know anything about what they're selling. It can get hilarious.Check seller feedback, does he have a history of selling tv's or high end electronics? Or has he only been a buyer of Beanies or DVDs? Check sellers other items. any disconnect there that makes no sense?
If you want to see fraud in action, do an Ebay search for an "Ellsworth Truth". It's a bicycle. You will likely find many of them at the following points. $1.00, $0.10 and $120 or $130. Check the sellers other items. The guy with the 1.00 and .10 bikes will have everything under the sun. Diverse? Car wheels, trumpets, Digi cams, Roland keyboards, Plasma, Bikes, all high end, all fantasy.
He is tosserd off Ebay 2 and 3 times a day, always back with new ID's or hacked ID's. The guy with the 130 or 120 bikes "sells" bikes only. Email them, what I said above will be true in every case. Its a Euro crime gang running multiple scams. They also have several hacked ID auctions. After they get to know you, They'll stop wasting their time emailing.
Also watch for a disconnect between where the user is registered and the location of the auction. If you see Andorra, a country of 80,000 or so, run. Its first on the list of choices for country when you register. In emails, seller will be suddenly be in UK or Europe. There are also free lancers.
Hotspots include Portugal/Spain, Romania, Netherlands. I had a Plasma seller in Indonesia suddenly want Western Union to the Netherlands. Really? thats quite a flight, especially since the TV was "located" in the US.
Try the above to improve your knowledge and if it sounds too good to be true...
thanks for the tip(s); also noteworhty: his price miracously went down to $1000 from $1500-for a 42" plasma??!!
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